Hi there,
I've been using a computer with Windows 8 since the spring of last year.
I've found it to be very useable, no less so than Windows 7 or Windows
Vista.

The "Modern" apps, which are those shown as tiles on the Start screen are
not all accessible with screen readers, but you can run "regular" apps from
the Windows Desktop, just like preceding builds of Windows. You don't have
to interact with the Modern apps and the screen full of tiles at all.

73,

Ron Miller


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:54 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Re Screen Reader with a Windows phone

having experienced both Mobile Speak (on 3 differing versions of windows =
smart phones), I can tell you that it can't even compare to voiceover on =
any of apples devices. Some of its features are straight forward enough, =
but Microsoft makes it difficult to really operate their phones. My last =
smartphone had windows 7 CE on it and that was a major frustration just =
trying to work around some of the apps. I can't tell you whether or not =
windows 8 is any better on an MS based smartphone, but I can tell you it =
was a disaster on a laptop. Jaws would only work with about 30% of the =
apps installed with windows.=20

Anyway, I would much rather use either voiceover on a mac or one of the =
alternative speech engines available in Linux. I have had my fill of MS =
and their kludge of an interface.

-eric

On May 25, 2014, at 12:45 PM, carolyn johnson wrote:

> Mobile speaks has it's drawbacks, especially in a windows phone.
>=20
> Carolyn Kj4vt
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> From: "Michael Ryan" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:02 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re Screen Reader with a Windows phone
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>> Bob:
>>=20
>> You might want to look at the Code Factory who make a product 
>>called=20=

>> Mobile Speak.
>> Be careful though, Android and Windows gotta a long way to go to 
>> beat=20=

>> Apple's accessibility. You might not like Apple and like me, you may 
>> =
not=20
>> like being told you can only use one product but sometimes it is what 
>> =
it=20
>> is.
>> Last I looked at Mobile Speak, it was a screen reader with 10 built =
in=20
>> accessible apps and anything else installed after the fact, didn't =
work.=20
>> My XYL has the iPhone 5C and to tell you the truth, when Voice 
>> Over=20=

>> running, it was a little quicker than LG Nexus 5,which as the Krait =
quad=20
>> core 2.3GHZ processor, faster than the Apples 1.6 Duel core, =
supposedly.=20
>> LOL but I didn't think so.
>>=20
>> 73:
>> Mike VO1AX=20