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Alan,
I would get one of those boxes in a heartbeat if it would help 
replace pulled out hair!!
pat, K9JAUAt 05:29 PM 3/12/2014, you wrote:
>Steve, I have that very LDG breakout box, and have used it several times to
>help track down problems just like this one.  The box has more than paid for
>itself in saved time, not to mention the hair that has not been pulled out,
>Hi.
>
>Alan/KD7GC
>
>
>Alan R. Downing
>Phoenix, AZ
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>On Behalf Of Steve Forst
>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:21 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: response from the Amaritron AL811 E-mail List Re Tripping Relay
>
>Tom,
>
>I've put in more than my 2 cents on this one so what's another penny or
>2?   I think part of the problem  starts with  using the term "relay
>tripping".    This kind of gives the idea of an amp  going off line due
>to a fault as a result of some protection  device.    W8JI seems to
>think your amp has a  optional grid protection unit and I think
>everything he says is based on that.  I had mentioned the possibility of
>this grid protection thing a few days ago at the start of this thread,
>but didn't think your amp had this option.
>
>Maybe a better discription of your problem is something like "T/R relay
>clicking at odd and infrequent times".
>
>Most of the amature detecctives on the list (including me) thinkthe
>problem is external to the amp:    Amp buffer, PTT, control cables, or
>whatever.
>
>I know you want to get to the bottom of this, but don't tear the station
>down to the foundation before trying some of the simple things.
>
>BTW, a few years ago there was some discussion of  an LDG breakout box.
>   you had mentioned you had put this on your list of things to get.   if
>you have one, you can use it as an interface between radio and amp.
>Otherwise, to get the buffer out of line, you will need to build, buy,
>or steal the proper cable.    If you have the LDG box laying around you
>can do a quick and dirty interface with a couple of RCA cables and see
>if the buffer is bad.
>
>73, Steve KW3A
>On 3/12/2014 5:57 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
> > All:
> >
> > Below is a response from Tom (W8JI) regarding my tripping relay issue.
> >
> > I don't fully understand all of the technical details here, or how best to
> > address them, but would be interested in any thoughts anyone has.
> >
> > Thanks, Mike, for posting my quiry, and sending this response to me.
> >
> > Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:38 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re_tripping relay
> >
> > Tom:
> >
> > Here's tom W8JI's reply regarding your tripping relay.
> > Hope you can get something out of it.
> >
> > 73:
> > Mike VO1AX
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > In the text question below, I am not familiar with the TS590 menu
>settings.
> >
> > That aside, I am assuming he has a GOP board installed. If so, the GOP
>will
> > trip on peaks over 193 mA.
> >
> > Something is causing peak current to exceed 193 mA, or he could have a bad
> > meter protection diode causing the grid meter to be wrong.
> >
> > He does have that board installed??
> >
> > Why not use a tone oscillator that lets you hear the grid current? It
>would
> > be pretty easy to use the ALC jack for that output if you have an external
> > oscillator. The grid meter is 0.3 volts full scale at 200 mA.
> >
> > 73 Tom
> >
> >
> >

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