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Buddy,

Are you using a Mac?  There are two possible solutions.

The easiest one is to try:
1.  Open Terminal and login as root.

2.  Then execute the following command to set Unicode as the default 
encoding:

defaults write com.apple.mail NSPreferredMailCharset "UTF-8"


3.  Restart Mail and try again.



The second solution might require help from a pair of eyes, you can force 
Mail to send in utf8 by copying a dingbat to a signature file and including 
that sig with any message you send.


Steve, K8SP
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: Regarding the List


> I=92m happy to leave well enough alone. I was only throwing it out =
> there. If, as Phil says, a setting can be changed to make modern 8-bit =
> plain text display properly, I=92m happy to crawl back into my hole. If =
> everyone=92s happy with the way things are, I am likewise happy to crawl =
> back into my hole. FWIW, I=92d never move it to Yahoo or Google, I =
> happen to have access to service with a mailman lists as a feature, as =
> many of them as I want. Doesn=92t make any real difference to me either =
> way.=20
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Ken Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> As the owner of the list, which I have been for something close to =
> twenty=20
>> years now in various places, let me say a few things, in no=20
>> particular order of importance.
>>=20
>> First, we have over 230 current active members. That probably comes as =
> a=20
>> surprise to a lot of you, I myself didn't even realize it had gotten =
> that=20
>> high because I hadn't looked at it in quite a while. Most of these =
> people,=20
>> presumably, wouldn't be here if they weren't happy with the list, at =
> least=20
>> for the most part, as it presently exists. Now, I will certainly grant =
> you=20
>> that those who post to it and run into some unique difficulties when =
> doing
>> so deserve to have those concerns dealt with if at all=20
>> possible, as a list without its contributors is nothing more than a =
> group=20
>> of email addresses. But it is also true that those experiencing these=20=
>
>> issues do not make up the majority of the posters to the list, let =
> alone=20
>> the majority of its subscribers.
>>=20
>> Second, but related to the above, I personally am probably not going =
> to be=20
>> inclined to deal with the logistics of moving that many people from =
> one=20
>> list host  to another, at least not right now. Both my parents are in=20=
>
>> something less than stellar health these days, and that's taking up a =
> lot=20
>> of my time, over and above just the normal obligations of life. This =
> list=20
>> is certainly important to me, I wouldn't have kept it going for as =
> long as=20
>> I have if it wasn't, but it has to take its place in terms of =
> priorities,=20
>> and again, right now, with it running at least reasonably well, it's =
> just=20
>> not that high in the stack. Likewise, I personally am not 
>> particularly=20=
>
>> inclined to move it to one of the typically-suggested locations for =
> such=20
>> things, like Yahoo or Google, both of which present various access =
> issues=20
>> of one sort or another, in addition to mining your personal data for=20=
>
>> all it's worth, and/or selling/trading/giving it away to most=20
>> anyone who will take it. I know privacy is becoming more and more of 
>> a=20=
>
>> foreign concept these days, but the privacy of my list subscribers is=20=
>
>> still more important to me than that.
>>=20
>> Having said all this, however, the concerns about message formatting =
> and=20
>> the like are also important, and have never not been so. I would be
>> glad to hear privately from anyone who owns a listserv list on the=20
>> icors.net domain who has been able to find a way around them, and in =
> fact=20
>> would hope they would have already been in touch if there was one, but =
> we=20
>> shall see. Likewise, if anyone knows of such a person, again put them =
> in=20
>> touch and I'll do what I can. And most definitely, anyone who wants 
>> to=20=
>
>> start something somewhere else is more than welcome to do so, I =
> certainly=20
>> don't have a monopoly on lists for blind hams or anyone else. I 
>> would,=20=
>
>> however, ask that you do me and the list the courtesy of not trying 
>> to=20=
>
>> organize it here. Take it private all you want, but not here,=20
>> please. I think both myself and the list deserve at least that much=20
>> consideration.
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> --
>> Ken,
>> [log in to unmask] 

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