Never ever confuse your RF ground with a lightning ground, if lightning gets 
in to where your radio is and your RF ground because your lightning 
grounding outside isn't good enough, you have much bigger problems than 
you'll ever know, never ever use your grounding lug from your radio, tuner, 
amp, or what ever for lightning ground or even think it will serve that 
purpose. Lightning gets that far, you're in trouble and if you're in the 
room, you're probably lucky if you're not dead.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kent Plemmons" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: 600 ohm ladderline


> Michael,
>
> You're right.  I'll find a way to do that.
>
> Kent
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 7:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: 600 ohm ladderline
>
> you should teal have an earth ground, as it is required in most cases = 
> for
> NEC codes, and if you violate those codes your home owner=92s = insurance
> can get out of paying for any damages if you have a lightning = strike. 
> When
> I took my strike here there was no investigation, but the = damages were
> only minor electronics and a computer. not enough to send = an agent. We
> he=92d storm damage here a couple years ago which caused = our ceiling to
> cave in in part of the living room and in that case they = did send 
> someone
> to asses the damage.. It also helps a lot with noise = pickup and helps 
> keep
> any strikes from causing more damage, like burning = your house down.  It 
> is
> a good reminder to me now that I got my hf = antenna back up and running
> that I need to get a grind system. currently = my feed line is outside
> unless I am actually on the air, which is = something that I definitely
> recommend when not in use if you don=92t = have a ground, ground your
> antenna outside to bleed off static charges = and keep the energy away 
> from
> your home. obviously this is not a real = solution, but until you get the
> ground done you should consider that. = Wehen i took the lightning strike 
> my
> feed line was grounded outside, = something I had done no more than 3
> minutes before the strike. I found = pieces of my feed line scattered al
> over the yard, melted from the = inside rout so fast that aloof the feed
> line was partially intact. it = makes a nice display at our hamfest and at
> club meetings for safety.
>
> On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Kent Plemmons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>=20
>> Those are some of the things that I've heard too.  I don't know if I =
> could
>> use the random wire idea as I don't have much of a ground as although
>> =
> I'm on
>> the main floor of my ouse, there is a distance of about 25' before I =
> could
>> get to an earth ground.  Should I have any RFI problems I'll probably
>> =
> try to
>> use some type of a counterpoise.  I'd like to have an earth ground but
>> =
> from
>> what I've read, my ground wire might turn out to be another antenna!
>>=20
>> Thank you Michael,
>> Kent
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
>> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 4:47 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: 600 ohm ladderline
>>=20
>> close   I use 450 ohm window line and wouldn=3D92t go back to coax for =
> an =3D
>> hf antenna for anything. Going from coax to laser line was the single
>> =
> =3D
>> biggest improvement I have ever seen when you want to use one antenna
>> =
> on =3D
>> multiple bands. it also offers the advantage  of being able to use a
>> =3D=
>
>> random wire tuner an feed both legs  tied together as the random wire
>> =
> =3D
>> against a good ground for bands that you can=3D92t do well in a =
> standard =3D
>> dipole configuration. They cal that a marconi, and it can often be =3D
>> effective if you  want to run 160 meters on an 80 meter dipole.. =3D =
> Ovioulsy
>> it is a compromise, but sometimes a compromise is better than =3D =
> nothing :)
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Kent Plemmons <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Do any of you all use 600 ohm ladderline and if so how do you like
>>> it=20=
>
>>> =3D
>> and to
>>> what is it connected.
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Thank you,
>>> =3D20
>>> Kent KK4FFF
>>> =3D20
>>> Clyde NC
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20