Michael,

You're right.  I'll find a way to do that.  

Kent


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 7:43 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: 600 ohm ladderline

you should teal have an earth ground, as it is required in most cases = for
NEC codes, and if you violate those codes your home owner=92s = insurance
can get out of paying for any damages if you have a lightning = strike. When
I took my strike here there was no investigation, but the = damages were
only minor electronics and a computer. not enough to send = an agent. We
he=92d storm damage here a couple years ago which caused = our ceiling to
cave in in part of the living room and in that case they = did send someone
to asses the damage.. It also helps a lot with noise = pickup and helps keep
any strikes from causing more damage, like burning = your house down.  It is
a good reminder to me now that I got my hf = antenna back up and running
that I need to get a grind system. currently = my feed line is outside
unless I am actually on the air, which is = something that I definitely
recommend when not in use if you don=92t = have a ground, ground your
antenna outside to bleed off static charges = and keep the energy away from
your home. obviously this is not a real = solution, but until you get the
ground done you should consider that. = Wehen i took the lightning strike my
feed line was grounded outside, = something I had done no more than 3
minutes before the strike. I found = pieces of my feed line scattered al
over the yard, melted from the = inside rout so fast that aloof the feed
line was partially intact. it = makes a nice display at our hamfest and at
club meetings for safety.

On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Kent Plemmons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Michael,
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> Those are some of the things that I've heard too.  I don't know if I =
could
> use the random wire idea as I don't have much of a ground as although 
> =
I'm on
> the main floor of my ouse, there is a distance of about 25' before I =
could
> get to an earth ground.  Should I have any RFI problems I'll probably 
> =
try to
> use some type of a counterpoise.  I'd like to have an earth ground but 
> =
from
> what I've read, my ground wire might turn out to be another antenna!
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> Thank you Michael,
> Kent
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 4:47 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: 600 ohm ladderline
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> close   I use 450 ohm window line and wouldn=3D92t go back to coax for =
an =3D
> hf antenna for anything. Going from coax to laser line was the single 
> =
=3D
> biggest improvement I have ever seen when you want to use one antenna 
> =
on =3D
> multiple bands. it also offers the advantage  of being able to use a 
> =3D=

> random wire tuner an feed both legs  tied together as the random wire 
> =
=3D
> against a good ground for bands that you can=3D92t do well in a =
standard =3D
> dipole configuration. They cal that a marconi, and it can often be =3D 
> effective if you  want to run 160 meters on an 80 meter dipole.. =3D =
Ovioulsy
> it is a compromise, but sometimes a compromise is better than =3D =
nothing :)
> On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Kent Plemmons <[log in to unmask]> =
wrote:
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>> Do any of you all use 600 ohm ladderline and if so how do you like 
>> it=20=

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> and to
>> what is it connected.
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>> Thank you,
>> =3D20
>> Kent KK4FFF
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>> Clyde NC
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