You could use the old trick which was mentioned on this list a few months
ago.
a random piece of coax from your shack earth point, going to an earth stake,
with the inner and outer shorted at the far end.
If you can avoid it being a quarter wave on any band it is preferable.

73

David W Wood 

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From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Kent Plemmons
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:25 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: 600 ohm ladderline

Michael,

Those are some of the things that I've heard too.  I don't know if I could
use the random wire idea as I don't have much of a ground as although I'm on
the main floor of my ouse, there is a distance of about 25' before I could
get to an earth ground.  Should I have any RFI problems I'll probably try to
use some type of a counterpoise.  I'd like to have an earth ground but from
what I've read, my ground wire might turn out to be another antenna!

Thank you Michael,
Kent

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 4:47 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: 600 ohm ladderline

close   I use 450 ohm window line and wouldn=92t go back to coax for an =
hf antenna for anything. Going from coax to laser line was the single =
biggest improvement I have ever seen when you want to use one antenna on =
multiple bands. it also offers the advantage  of being able to use a =
random wire tuner an feed both legs  tied together as the random wire =
against a good ground for bands that you can=92t do well in a standard =
dipole configuration. They cal that a marconi, and it can often be =
effective if you  want to run 160 meters on an 80 meter dipole.. = Ovioulsy
it is a compromise, but sometimes a compromise is better than = nothing :)
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