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Hope this helps?
-Al
On 1/13/2014 8:54 PM, Christopher J Chaltain wrote:
> What application are you using to read the article? I'll assume it's 
> something like Internet Explorer or Adobe Reader.
>
> First, why do you expect caps-lock+down-arrow to read the rest of the 
> text using NVDA? This command will move the review cursor to the next 
> line and read it. If you want to read from the current position to the 
> end of the text, use the caps-lock+a key sequence.
>
> I guess the fact that NVDA says selecting before the word being 
> selected, instead of afterwards, has never really bothered me too 
> much. I can keep selecting text without having to wait for NVDA to 
> stop speaking, and I just slow down when I get close to the end of 
> what I want to select. I do prefer the way JAWS does it, and I don't 
> see how to change this behavior in NVDA. It might be worth mentioning 
> it to the NVDA team, if they haven't already considered it.
>
> I've always used a clipboard manager in Windows to get around the 
> limitations of the basic Windows clipboard, so again, I've never even 
> noticed that JAWS gives you this additional feature. You might also 
> want to check the application that you're using. Firefox, for example, 
> has a plug in that let's you append text to the clipboard.
>
> When using JAWS, have you tried using the F8 key to select an element? 
> Here's what it says in the help for JAWS:
>
> Select Entire Element
> JAWS provides a command that allows you to select an entire part of a 
> web page, select an entire table, or select an entire list. To select 
> an entire list, move to the line that reads, "List with x items," and 
> press F8. The list is selected and ready to be copied to the 
> clipboard. To select an entire table, move to the line that reads, 
> "Table with x columns and y rows," and press F8. When selecting a 
> table and copying it to the Clipboard, the table formatting is lost. 
> Information from each cell of the table starts on a new line.
> Note: What is selected is based on where the Virtual Cursor is 
> located, so it is important to move to the beginning line of a list or 
> table if you want to select the entire list or table. For example, if 
> the Virtual Cursor is on a list item, rather than at the top of the 
> list, only that list item is selected.
>
> I've used this to quickly copy a whole list or table into the 
> clipboard and preserve the formatting of the table or list.
>
> Another thing to try is in the HTML options for JAWS, you might take a 
> look at the select and copy option. Here's what it says in the JAWS help:
>
> Select and Copy: This option controls whether or not JAWS will use the 
> Text Selection and Copy Commands from the Web browser, e-mail 
> software, or other owner of a virtual document.
> With the From Virtual Cursor setting, text is copied as plain text 
> without formatting, pictures, and HTML attributes.
> With the Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight setting, the text and 
> elements you select are highlighted onscreen as you press selection 
> keys from the keyboard just as it would in programs like word 
> processors. The content is then copied with all formatting as in the 
> prior option above. The Default setting is: Full Content Using 
> Onscreen Highlight.
>
> I've changed this setting when the formatting of the web page was 
> getting in the way of the text I wanted to grab.
>
> Finally, in JAWS, you might want to use place markers to copy text. 
> Again, here's what it says in the help files for JAWS:
>
> Selecting Between the Temporary PlaceMarker and the Cursor Position
> To select text between a temporary PlaceMarker and your current 
> position in a Web page, HTML document, or Word document, do the 
> following:
> 1. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+k to set a temporary PlaceMarker.
> 2. Navigate to another location on the Web page or document, then 
> press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M. All text between the temporary PlaceMarker 
> and your current cursor position is selected and ready to be copied to 
> the Clipboard.
> This method is often easier than using the SHIFT Key in conjunction 
> with the ARROW keys when attempting to select large blocks of text.
>
> I haven't used this method much in JAWS, but it's very much like what 
> I'm used to in Emacs, and in general, I think is a far superior way to 
> copy text.
>
> I'm not a Mac user, but I doubt it's going to work exactly like JAWS 
> only better. I'd suspect the learning curve is a bit steeper going 
> from JAWS to VoiceOver than it is going from JAWS to NVDA.
>
> On 1/13/2014 3:58 PM, harry brown wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Using jaws 12, on a windows 7 laptop.
>> I'm so frustrated right now, I could scream!
>> I've got enormous work deadlines.
>> With jaws, here's the problem. I'm having to select some texst, and 
>> so I go into the article and while I'm reading it, I'm selecting 
>> text, not alot, but just a bit of text.
>> Then, I go to paste it into the questionaire, and the darn thing 
>> doesn't paste all of it in. It just pastes it in bits and pieces!
>> So, then, I tryed NVDA.
>> However, NVDA has it's draw backs too:
>> 1. When I press capslock down arrow, or, insert down arrow to read 
>> the rest of the article, like I can do using jaws, this darn thing 
>> only reads 2 lines and stops.
>> Then, the other frustration with NVDA is, when you select text, word 
>> by word, this darn thing says "selecting" whatever word, which takes 
>> an enormous amount of my time, and seconds count right now!
>> I don't want the thing to say "selecting", then what word it 
>> selected, I want it to say just the word that it's selecting, then 
>> the word "selecting, just like jaws does it.
>> Another frustration with NVDA is, you know how jaws will let you 
>> append to clipboard? NVDA won't let you. You can try all you want to, 
>> and hit windows key c, and nothing gets appended to the clipboard.
>> Folks, I'm under extreme deadlines here.
>> I've got so much crap going on, and people want what they want, and 
>> lives are depending on what I do, in so many ways.
>> I don't have time to play footsy with 2 pieces of crap screen 
>> readers, (at least that's what I am thinking.
>> I do have a question for you mac users. Do any of you folks have 
>> these specific issues on the Mac, which I just mentioned earlier?
>> Harry
>>
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