Angel, the reason we don't believe Catholic teaching, and I was 
raised Catholic, is because they aren't in the Scriptures.  You are 
stretching the cloud of witnesses statement and taking it out of context.

earlier, Angel, wrote:
>I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just can't 
>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to 
>believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the 
>Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they 
>constantly are with us on earth watching over us with our personal 
>angels.  They being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul 
>spoke, and they so easily accept something they read from a book 
>shelf.  Almost as if it were gospel itself?  It seems to me, 
>protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from almost 
>anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are almost as bad as those 
>who believe the shroud of Turin is real.  When Saint Paul didn't 
>even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he would 
>have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there.  If he saw 
>him.  Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he 
>played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven.  Why should I 
>believe any modern recounts of heavenly experiences.  When, in order 
>for A Saint to be canonized, two miracles must be verified as having 
>been done by that Saint.  It is those recounting from such Saints as 
>Paul and John in whom I put my trust concerning heavenly 
>accounts.  I ask, what is the litmus test to which you all have put 
>this recounting from this young man whom no one on the list knows 
>personally? Now I am not saying the experiences themselves aren't 
>real experiences.  I am just saying why I don't believe they should 
>be taken at face value.  Only God knows whether those experiences 
>weren't hallucinations.  My late husband suffered from a load of 
>those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what they 
>were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little 
>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>
>
>>Hi All,
>>I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>>what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>compassion.
>>Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>but it seems like what happened to this little one is 
>>meant  to  encourage us.
>>I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>>life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>>We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>>Blessings,
>>Donna
>>On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>>experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book and
>>>I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by Scripture
>>>from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some of your most
>>>closely held beliefs?
>>>
>>>Phil.