That's true, Lloyd and the mountains really have an effect on groundwave 
verses skywave signals.  I can talk to guys in Denver only 10 to 15 miles 
away and at some times, they have qsb on their signals.  On 2 meters, it's 
worse.  When working repeaters 50 to 100 miles north of Denver, pointing 
your two meter beam to the southwest, instead of directly at the northern 
repeaters, you get much better reception due to the bounce off a couple of 
the large mountains 35 miles to the southwest of town.  Western Colorado has 
much better ground conductivity and DX work is many times better.  Most guys 
out here on HF think Colorado should be a 7 and not a zero because of the 
propagation we have compared to other 0 states.

Phil.
K0NX





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: WWV From Colorado


> Your 2.5 MHz experience is partly because of hills and partly because of
> poor soil conductivity.  Same phenomenon affects the AM broadcast band in
> the daytime.  In the midwest and along the seacoast the ground-wave
> low-frequency propagation is much better than in Colorado.
>
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Phil Scovell
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:09 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: WWV From Colorado
>
> Denver is about 50 to 60 miles from WWV and there are lots of hills 
> between
> here and Fort Collins where the antennas are.  During the day, you would
> normally think that their 2.5 signal would be booming into Denver but most
> days, from noon to about 3 PM local, I can't copy them strong enough to 
> hear
> the voice announcement.  I can here the carrier, of course, but some days 
> I
> just can bearly hear them on 2.5 MHz.  The 5.0 frequency is fair during 
> the
> afternoon but some nights is 40 over and a few times this winter, I copied
> the actual female voice of WWVH in Hawaii on 5.0 as it transmits on the 
> same
> frequency.  She makes the announcement before the voice out of the Fort
> Collins stations begins to talk and I have copied her over the WWV carrier
> often over the years.  The same is true on 10.0 and 15.0 MHz.  I copied 
> the
> carrier and her the voice in the noise on 20.0 and 25.0 but the one I copy
> the best, being so close, is the 5.0 MHz as I said.  In 1992 with my 2
> element 40 meter beam at 70 feet, some mornings I copied WWVH on 5.0 at 40
> over S9.  In other times, I have copied, how be it a handful of time, WWVH
> on the 2.5 MHz frequency, too, but that has been pretty rare.  As I 
> recall,
> most of those times were back in the mid to late seventies.  I sure miss
> hearing the time and condition levels given in CW like it was back then,
> too.  I've never been able to copy the atomic clock signals down there in
> the 50 to 60 to 70 Hz range but of course I'm not using any kind of super
> long wire, say 500 miles long, at that low frequency range, haha.
>
> Phil.
> K0NX
>