I also agree. SOmething has to be done as we mac users (and there are far more of us than "just a few") are growing in number. I have checked every way that I can and there appears to b no way to change how apple mail sends its messages. In fact, I have looked at one of the sent messages using a hex editor and it seems that apple mail isn't sending with those extraneous characters in each message. This clearly means that the fault exists elsewhere and there is nothing we blind mac users can do about it from our end. SO, telling those of us who use macs to take off just isn't going to solve the problem. Its just going to alienate us blind mac users who are also hams.

Now, I joined this group because its one of a very few that actually cater to blind hams, their specific knowledge and tips on how to operate radio equipment. I still want to participate. However, I am sensing a certain level of hostility toward myself (and others who use macs). It is making me feel less than welcome. I don't have the $2,000 it takes to get a proper windows machine with jaws on it just to satisfy 1 mailing list.

so, I think I shall shut up and just lurk.

-eric

On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> From everything I've heard, the extraneous character problem can't be solved 
> by individuals, which is what's causing the frustration.  If someone knows 
> of an effective solution, please share with the rest of us.
> 
> Steve
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Brennan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 09:59
> Subject: Re: New blind-hams list?
> 
> 
>> This is a well over done but somewhat interesting thread.  The problems 
>> seem to
>> be with a small number of people who are complaining about message 
>> formatting.
>> The solution seems to be to create a new list just because of those few 
>> folks.
>> It seems that it would be far easier for those folks to solve the problem 
>> from
>> their end rather than disrupt a list which is running well and has run 
>> well for
>> years.
>> 
>> Another consideration is the loss of privacy that moving the list to 
>> someone
>> like Yahoo will involve.  It almost seems as though people don't care 
>> about such
>> these days but there are enough of us on the list who are older who I 
>> would
>> think would be concerned about this.
>> 
>> My vote would be to leave well enough alone.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>>