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John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:25:35 -0500
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If you put the equals sign before it like it's read in the messages it 
should be fine. Maybe you have punctuation set to none so you don't hear the 
equals signs but with it set to some, I do with JAWS so that's how I'd do it 
and I'm sure that would work for most. Not sure what to do with my phone 
though but I don't often read messages from this list on my phone anyway.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: Regarding the List


> The problem with working with screen reader dictionarys, is that sometimes
> you want 20 or 92 in your messages.
> I wonder what would happen with a sentence like this.
>
> The Sunday net is on 20 meters, I hope you can hear me, I am measuring 92
> watts out of my radio.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "KK4AHX Darren Duff" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Regarding the List
>
>
>> Just a thought folks. You could make a rule in your screenreaders
>> pronunciation dictionary to ignore these and then the problem would go
>> away.
>> I know it's an extra step, but if the power is there why not use it? Just
>> an
>> idea. I think most if not all windows screenreaders have this capability.
>> I
>> might even try it myself!
>>
>>
>>
>> 73.
>> Darren Duff.
>> amateur radio station KK4AHX.
>>
>> Cherokee Amateur Radio Society.
>> http://www.cherokeehams.com
>>
>> Cherokee County ARES.
>> http://www.cherokee-ares.org
>> When all else fails, Amateur Radio
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:05 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Regarding the List
>>
>> I=92m happy to leave well enough alone. I was only throwing it out =
>> there.
>> If, as Phil says, a setting can be changed to make modern 8-bit = plain
>> text
>> display properly, I=92m happy to crawl back into my hole. If =
>> everyone=92s
>> happy with the way things are, I am likewise happy to crawl = back into 
>> my
>> hole. FWIW, I=92d never move it to Yahoo or Google, I = happen to have
>> access to service with a mailman lists as a feature, as = many of them as
>> I
>> want. Doesn=92t make any real difference to me either = way.=20 On Feb 
>> 10,
>> 2014, at 3:00 AM, Ken Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> As the owner of the list, which I have been for something close to =
>> twenty=20
>>> years now in various places, let me say a few things, in no=20
>>>particular order of importance.
>>>=20
>>> First, we have over 230 current active members. That probably comes as
>>>=
>> a=20
>>> surprise to a lot of you, I myself didn't even realize it had gotten =
>> that=20
>>> high because I hadn't looked at it in quite a while. Most of these =
>> people,=20
>>> presumably, wouldn't be here if they weren't happy with the list, at =
>> least=20
>>> for the most part, as it presently exists. Now, I will certainly grant
>>> =
>> you=20
>>> that those who post to it and run into some unique difficulties when =
>> doing
>>> so deserve to have those concerns dealt with if at all=20 possible, as
>>> a list without its contributors is nothing more than a =
>> group=20
>>> of email addresses. But it is also true that those experiencing
>>> these=20=
>>
>>> issues do not make up the majority of the posters to the list, let =
>> alone=20
>>> the majority of its subscribers.
>>>=20
>>> Second, but related to the above, I personally am probably not going =
>> to be=20
>>> inclined to deal with the logistics of moving that many people from =
>> one=20
>>> list host  to another, at least not right now. Both my parents are
>>> in=20=
>>
>>> something less than stellar health these days, and that's taking up a
>>> =
>> lot=20
>>> of my time, over and above just the normal obligations of life. This =
>> list=20
>>> is certainly important to me, I wouldn't have kept it going for as =
>> long as=20
>>> I have if it wasn't, but it has to take its place in terms of =
>> priorities,=20
>>> and again, right now, with it running at least reasonably well, it's =
>> just=20
>>> not that high in the stack. Likewise, I personally am not
>>> particularly=20=
>>
>>> inclined to move it to one of the typically-suggested locations for =
>> such=20
>>> things, like Yahoo or Google, both of which present various access =
>> issues=20
>>> of one sort or another, in addition to mining your personal data
>>> for=20=
>>
>>> all it's worth, and/or selling/trading/giving it away to most=20
>>> anyone who will take it. I know privacy is becoming more and more of
>>> a=20=
>>
>>> foreign concept these days, but the privacy of my list subscribers
>>> is=20=
>>
>>> still more important to me than that.
>>>=20
>>> Having said all this, however, the concerns about message formatting =
>> and=20
>>> the like are also important, and have never not been so. I would be
>>> glad to hear privately from anyone who owns a listserv list on the=20
>>> icors.net domain who has been able to find a way around them, and in =
>> fact=20
>>> would hope they would have already been in touch if there was one, but
>>> =
>> we=20
>>> shall see. Likewise, if anyone knows of such a person, again put them
>>> =
>> in=20
>>> touch and I'll do what I can. And most definitely, anyone who wants
>>> to=20=
>>
>>> start something somewhere else is more than welcome to do so, I =
>> certainly=20
>>> don't have a monopoly on lists for blind hams or anyone else. I
>>> would,=20=
>>
>>> however, ask that you do me and the list the courtesy of not trying
>>> to=20=
>>
>>> organize it here. Take it private all you want, but not here,=20
>>>please. I think both myself and the list deserve at least that much=20
>>>consideration.
>>>=20
>>> Thanks.
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Ken,
>>> [log in to unmask]
>
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