Do you see what I mean about skepticism?  You seem to have plenty of it when 
corresponding with me.  Why this same skepticism doesn't permeate all else 
you read astounds me.  If dead people can't return to earth, than Lazarus, 
the widow's dead son, and Jesus himself didn't return to earth.  Because 
dead people can't return to earth.  Neither will the dead rise at the final 
sound of the trumpet.  Because that will mean they will also be returning 
from physical death.  If that is the case upon what do you base your own 
salvation I ask?  If you truly believe dead people can't return to earth, 
Then I will openly question your own out of body experience.  If you "died", 
and if others who seem to tell similar experiences as do you claim to have 
had. As they too claimed to have experienced physical death.  We know the 
physical body can be brought back from death.  Because science has proven it 
to be so.  .  You said yourself you died when you were 19 years old, and you 
say dead people don't return to earth, how am I to believe either you or the 
story supposedly told by this boy in this book?  I am not angry, nor 
judgmental.  I am skeptical of a story told by a person who believes dead 
people don't return to earth.  Because, that statement nullifies any belief 
that person might have in the resurrection itself.  The bible tells us we 
are to test the spirits, and any doctrine not taught buy Saint Paul himself. 
Which we are exhorted not to believe.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's 
astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.


They go against scripture. Dead people cannot come back to earth. Mary bowed 
down to Jesus. She knew he was The Lord. The pope is a priest but not God on 
earth. We can only get to Heaven through Jesus Christ not good works

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> On Jul 24, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just can't 
> understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to believe 
> in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints are 
> interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly are with 
> us on earth watching over us with our personal angels.  They being the 
> cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so easily accept 
> something they read from a book shelf.  Almost as if it were gospel 
> itself?  It seems to me, protestants will bee almost willing to believe 
> anything from almost anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are almost as 
> bad as those who believe the shroud of Turin is real.  When Saint Paul 
> didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he would 
> have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there.  If he saw him. 
> Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he played in his 
> martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven.  Why should I believe any modern 
> recounts of heavenly experiences.  When, in order for A Saint to be 
> canonized, two miracles must be verified as having been done by that 
> Saint.  It is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in whom I 
> put my trust concerning heavenly accounts.  I ask, what is the litmus test 
> to which you all have put this recounting from this young man whom no one 
> on the list knows personally? Now I am not saying the experiences 
> themselves aren't real experiences.  I am just saying why I don't believe 
> they should be taken at face value.  Only God knows whether those 
> experiences weren't hallucinations. My late husband suffered from a load 
> of those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what they 
> were too, because he spoke each he saw.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's 
> astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>
>
>> Hi All,
>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>> compassion.
>> Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant  to 
>> encourage us.
>> I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>> people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>> We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>> Blessings,
>> Donna
>>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>> experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book 
>>> and
>>> I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by 
>>> Scripture
>>> from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some of your 
>>> most
>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>
>>> Phil.