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Anthony Vece <[log in to unmask]>
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I can't imagine using Narrator for anything.


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On January 18, 2014 3:43:46 PM RJ Sandefur <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:

> No they aren't not being rembersed by microsoft! This is only a roomer! 
> Second, Microsoft's main goal is to make narator so that we as blind people 
> won't have to use third party screen readers. RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: window-eyes
>
>
> > First, I'd say there is a big chance they are being reimbursed by Microsoft.
> > Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch!
> >
> > Second, you are correct that WE uses a lot of the control-shift combo
> > whereas Jaws uses the insert key.  There are a lot of commands to remember
> > with screen-readers, particularly with Jaws nowadays.
> >
> > Third, Windows has made the System Access using the USB drive slightly more
> > problematic after Windows Vista, Windows 7 and 8, as well as the SP3 update
> > to Xp.  Microsoft doesn't like programs to run from a flash drive so that
> > plug 'n play capability has been disabled by default.  You can still run SA
> > from a flash drive, as you can the other screen-readers, but you need to
> > know that there will be a dialog you have to authorize.  The advantage to
> > using System Access in this way is it doesn't rely on loading video chaining
> > and mirror drivers as Window-Eyes and Jaws does.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard fiorello" 
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:50 AM
> > Subject: window-eyes
> >
> >
> >> Hi;
> >> I think this is a great offer.  I am a bit perplexed though.  Gw
> >> micro still is in business to make a profit.  So how are they
> >> profitting from this free software? Any chance they are being
> >> reimbursed by the folks selling office?
> >> Although the free version is nice, nothing like your own c d.
> >> This is a very basic general statement but when I switched from
> >> jfw to window-eyes just remembering that gw tends to use control
> >> shift as their modifier where as jfw tends to use enter.  I'm
> >> using some software at my parttime retirement job that will only
> >> read using the number pad with window-eyes.  I'd love to know how
> >> it works with other screen readers.  Unfortunately since its on a
> >> network you have to get the blessing of a few people before
> >> installing and uninstalling things.  If I understand system
> >> access correctly you can just have it on a flash drive and plug
> >> in the flash drive where ever and away you go.
> >> I understand what folks are saying but this brain isn't sure it
> >> wants to deal with two or three screen readers.  If you have to
> >> change screen readers depending upon what your trying to do then
> >> somebody needds to work on their screen reader.
> >>    richard
> >> sent from my braille note

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