Colin,

The environmental impact study would probably study how it may affect the 
environment visually because towers and antennas are ugly.  We get a lot of 
lip about our antennas, however, people don't mind 10's of thousands of cell 
towers ruining the country side and scenery.

Go figure!

Howard #3

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Luso towers


> wow, this sounds a little over the top.  I can sort of understand why they
> want soil sample studies, because they want to insure the soil can support
> the tower etc...I assume it's an unguuyed tower...but an environmental
> impact study is quite a stretch.
> that would be like a gas station asking for an environmental impact study
> when they sell you gas for your car lol.
> kind of doesn't make sense from a business perspective.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
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> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:44 AM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Luso towers
>
>> Jim, The Luso engineer only has to be present when the tower is being
>> installed, not for the base digging and pouring.  However, copies of all
>> permits, including soil studies and environmental impact statements must
>> be
>> submitted to Luso for their review and approval.  My friend says that
>> providing copies of all of the paperwork, along with soil and impact
>> studies, costs several thousand dollars.  There is nothing inexpensive
>> about
>> putting up a Luso tower.  However, when it is all said and done, you have
>> an
>> absolutely top notch tower.
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
>> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:55 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Luso towers
>>
>> Alan, how large is the foundation for one of these towers?  Does the
>> engineer from Japan have to supervise the installation of the base?  Jim
>> WA6EKS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Alan R. Downing
>> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:46 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Luso towers
>>
>> The width of the bottom section is 65 inches, less than I would have
>> guessed.  Width of the top section is 18 inches.  I don't know what the
>> foot
>> print of the rotating base is, but that may well be significantly larger
>> than the first section of the tower itself.
>>
>> Here is an interesting fact, when buying any of these towers, you must 
>> pay
>> for a Luso construction engineer to travel to your station from Japan, to
>> supervise the entire preparation and installation activities..  You must
>> pay
>> all of his expenses, including airline tickets, hotel room, etc.  The
>> reason
>> for this is to assure that the tower is installed correctly.  My friend
>> that
>> just bought the 90 foot model, had to pay around $5 grand for the
>> engineers
>> presence.
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
>> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:36 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Luso towers
>>
>> heavy duty alright at around 15 tonnes...that sounds a bit on the heavy
>> side?  A heavy duty 68 foot del hi only weighs maybe 500 pounds
>> total...this
>>
>> must be a very very large tower? that is, very large spread at the bottom
>> to
>>
>> support so much weight at the top?
>> Obviously a 68 foot del hi is only rated for about 12 square feet of wind
>> load though lol.
>> I can't imagine shipping on a beast like that haha.
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
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>> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:14 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Luso towers
>>
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone on the list looked into Luso towers when shopping for a new
>>> one?
>>> For those that aren't aware of Luso, it is a Japanese tower builder of
>>> heavy
>>> duty electrically operated crankup towers in heights from 90 feet to 
>>> over
>>> 300 feet.  They accommodate antenna, rotor, and mast weight of up to 
>>> 2200
>>> pounds.  The 150 foot model is rated to accommodate 140 square foot of
>>> antenna, and goes from a fully retracted height of 42 feet to a fully
>>> extended height of 145 feet in 29 seconds.    Masts of up to 8.6 inch
>>> diameters are accommodated with multiple thrust bearings.  Each model is
>>> available with a number of options, including a rotating base, and
>>> automatic
>>> retraction when winds exceed a preset level.  The 150 foot model weighs
>>> 29700 pounds excluding options.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A friend just took delivery of the 90 foot model with the rotating base
>>> and
>>> automatic retraction system.  Because of my recent good news on the
>>> health
>>> front, I am seriously thinking of ordering the 120 foot tower with the
>>> rotating base, automatic retraction, 4 inch mast with thrust bearings,
>>> and
>>
>>> a
>>> prop pitch rotor with Green Heron controller.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has investigated the Luso offerings, I'd appreciate discussing
>>> them with you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas everyone, and a very happy New Year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best 73
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>