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David Hillebrandt <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 30 Nov 2013 13:39:03 -0500
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Hi Jim, I have a feeling your vertical is either the r5 or r7000, though 
they make a lot of them. Here in Florida, I have used verticals many times 
with very little ground radial system and still had good luck, though some 
places really require radials to do much of anything. I believe the r5 and 
r7 have a couple radials already attached to the antenna which helps for 
portable use and really don't have to do anything but hook a radio to it and 
start transmitting. Often, the better grounding, the quieter it is. I find 
that my g5rv worked better than the gap challenger vertical on 40 and 80 
meters but of course all depends on where the person is on the other end. 
The vertical is a much better dx antenna than a g5rv usually. am glad yours 
is working for you. Hope hear you on the bands. 73 Dave w4ci
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Observations about a cushcraft vertical antenna


> Just some preliminary unscientific observations.  I have been
> using a Cushcraft vertical on 20 through 10 meters for a couple
> of months now.  Sorry, I don't remember the model number.  It is
> mounted on a ten foot steel post behind our garage and has its
> own ground rod, but only small radials on the antenna itself.
> The bottom of the antenna is just a couple feet above the garage
> roof.  The antenna has a match box at the feed point where the
> coax connects at the bottom.  Sorry I can't remember the model, a
> ham friend gave me this used antenna.  Anyway, my point is that
> it's my first use of a vertical on HF and is not as noisy as I
> expected it would be.  I also have a DXCC dipole that works  on
> the same bands and I can switch from one to the other antenna for
> noise and signal comparison.  I can't really tell much difference
> between the two antennas so far.  73, Jim WA6EKS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 07:00:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: Question about antennas
>
> I have the 5BTV ground mounted and honestly I don't really see it
> being as
> noisy as I expected hearing my whole time as a ham how noisy
> verticals are.
> Height might make a difference but with being in a trailer park
> and all
> buildings being the same height, I'd have to guide it like crazy
> if I went
> above the roof.  I did think about it.  I have it guided now with
> very light
> rope tied to the house and shed but still half of it is above the
> roof line
> of all buildings in this area for miles so when we get wind, it
> sure gets
> the worst of it.  I did it to be safe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Basden" <[log in to unmask]
> To: <[log in to unmask]
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 12:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about antennas
>
>
> I used the 4BTV with four radials on each band on my rooftop and
> it
> worked extremely well.  It was noisy like all verticals, but DX
> was
> readily available.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, W7OQ
>
> At 09:25 AM 11/29/2013, you wrote:
> I have the Alpha Delta DX-EE, and it's a good dipole.  I've had
> good luck
> with it for the past few years, even though I have it in my
> attic.  I
> haven't used one that's exposed to the elements though, so I
> can't tell
> you
> how it holds up under adverse weather.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr.  Ronald E.  Milliman
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:15 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Question about antennas
>
> Is there anyone here on our list personally familiar with either
> of these
> antennas, and if so, what feedback can you give me about them?
>
> 1.  The Alpha Delta DX-EE
>
> Description: Alpha Delta "ISO-RES" inductors replace lossy traps
> and
> capacitors, rated for Full Power; Direct 50 ohm feed, no antenna
> tuner is
> required except for extended frequency coverage; Fully assembled
> with
> insulated #12 copper wire, stainless hardware and 50 ft.  of
> nylon rope;
> Includes the DELTA-C static protected center insulator and
> DELTA-CIN end
> insulators; Installs horizontally OR as an inverted V; covers:
> 40-20-15-10M
> plus 30-17-12M using a Wide Range Tuner, 40' Multi-band Antenna.
>
>
> 2.  Hustler 4BTV -- 4 Band Trap Vertical
>
> Description: 4 Band Vertical HF Fixed Station covering 10,  15,
> 20, and 40
> Meters; 21'.
>
> Ron, K8HSY 

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