That's the nature of QRP, or in door antennas, for DX, you'll be alright if 
you're patient and I give people credit for that. I've tried it and I don't 
have the patience. It can be done though, I know a few people who do it and 
my own setup needs patience enough though not as much as you might think 
considering. I had fun on 10 meters Saturday when I was home and it was 
open. Locally, I have work to do on that band.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:19 AM
Subject: Small loop antennas


> Hi Colin, I have a friend who used a copper loop antenna
> approximately 36 inches in diameter to conduct DX with European
> stations using I think 10 watts.  He lived in an apartment and
> was using a digital protocol but I can't remember which one it
> was other than it wasn't PSK 31.  Pretty amazing stuff, but each
> contact takes a while, kind of like it will be when we have folks
> living on Mars! 73, Jim WA6EKS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:42:00 -0600
> Subject: Re: interesting article
>
> I have yet to hear one of these actually on the air.
> The theory is logical, and the science supports it, but in real
> world
> performance I'm not sure how successful they've actually been so
> far.
> The key to using a tiny HF antenna is to communicate with people
> who have
> big high gain antennas hi hi.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:59 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]
> Subject: interesting article
>
> Here is a very interesting article on small HF antennas and the
> theory
> behind them.
> PVC pipe and fruit cans, both readily available.
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/harteh/harteh.htm
>
>
> H T Kaufman MSW LCSW
> Adaptive Technology Instructor