Oh Phil! You are definitely not a Liar! Not one bit!

You are a s honest as ever!

I'm personally glad I left the Catholic Church.

Many of the beliefs of The Catholic Church are not Biblically accurate.


Thanks much.

Many Blessings,

Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.

At 07:12 PM 7/24/2014, you wrote:
>Angel,
>
>So, since we don't agree on doctrinal positions and interpretation 
>of some Scriptures, am I a liar because it doesn't follow the 
>interpretation of the Catholic church or you?
>
>Phil.
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:28 PM
>Subject: Re: Just read the book
>
>
>>I will not read the book.  For the reasons I previously 
>>stated.  Many in this world have different beliefs than do I about 
>>all sorts of things from . John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to 
>>Joseph Smith.  All claiming to base their beliefs on scriptural 
>>accuracy.  Each of whom have flawed reasoning, in my opinion.  Of 
>>course you are free, as you have done, to disagree with me on 
>>everything.  That is your right.  About which I wouldn't gainsay 
>>you. I dare say, I need not have to know about the experiences of 
>>others regarding either heaven or hell.  I
>>Shall be having my own experiences in good time.  So why should I 
>>care to read about those of others?  When such are so personal, and 
>>can be so easily contrived by others to make a dollar or 
>>million.    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" 
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
>>Subject: Just read the book
>>
>>
>>>Angel,
>>>
>>>After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used 
>>>in the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs 
>>>are superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and 
>>>theology.  But you aren't going to do that, are you?  You are 
>>>going to keep running down everyone else who has read it as being 
>>>gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called Bible 
>>>believers.  I still say you are just simply afraid to read it 
>>>because you would rather believe in a belief system than in 
>>>Scripture itself even when Scripture is clearly experienced by a 
>>>Bible believer.
>>>
>>>Phil.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little 
>>>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just 
>>>>can't understand for the life of me why protestants find it so 
>>>>hard to believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those 
>>>>claiming the Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, 
>>>>and that they constantly are with us on earth watching over us 
>>>>with our personal angels.  They being the cloud of witnesses of 
>>>>which Saint Paul spoke, and they so easily accept something they 
>>>>read from a book shelf.  Almost as if it were gospel itself?  It 
>>>>seems to me, protestants will bee almost willing to believe 
>>>>anything from almost anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are 
>>>>almost as bad as those who believe the shroud of Turin is 
>>>>real.  When Saint Paul didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, 
>>>>and don't you think he would have at least raved about how he saw 
>>>>Saint Steven there.  If he saw him. Because, we know he suffered 
>>>>from the guilt over the part he played in his martyrdom, if he 
>>>>saw him in heaven.  Why should I believe any modern recounts of 
>>>>heavenly experiences.  When, in order for A Saint to be 
>>>>canonized, two miracles must be verified as having been done by 
>>>>that Saint.  It is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and 
>>>>John in whom I put my trust concerning heavenly accounts.  I ask, 
>>>>what is the litmus test to which you all have put this recounting 
>>>>from this young man whom no one on the list knows personally? Now 
>>>>I am not saying the experiences themselves aren't real 
>>>>experiences.  I am just saying why I don't believe they should be 
>>>>taken at face value. Only God knows whether those experiences 
>>>>weren't hallucinations.  My late husband suffered from a load of 
>>>>those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what 
>>>>they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a 
>>>>little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>>>>>what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>>compassion.
>>>>>Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>>>>but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant  to 
>>>>>encourage us.
>>>>>I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>>>>>life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>>>people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>>>>>We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>>>>>Blessings,
>>>>>Donna
>>>>>On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>>>>>experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this 
>>>>>>little book and
>>>>>>I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>>>haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by Scripture
>>>>>>from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some 
>>>>>>of your most
>>>>>>closely held beliefs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil.
>
>Thanks much.
>
>Many Blessings,
>
>Pat Ferguson
>"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.