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dustin thompson <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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lol i know lots of hams who have them, who don't need them. i hear
them talk about their phones all the time

On 6/22/13, Steve <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have always felt a bit violated when they so openly advertise the
> availability of the free cellphones.  It is funded by a $1 surcharge I think
>
> on every land-line phone.
>
> I'm not surprised.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>
>
>> track phone? more like crack phone hahahahahah
>>
>> regards
>> Colin
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>>
>>
>>>I shouldn't even  respond to this message, as I don't want to feed
>>> trolls and spark debate on the list.  However, this being a ham hobby
>>> list, I'm not really sure how or why this post would be applicable
>>> here.
>>> I'm not making a political statement here, or saying I'm on one side
>>> or the other of this particular issue, but we're all just here to talk
>>> radio, blindness issues, and generally rag chew.  This seems, at least
>>> to me, to be a bit devisive.
>>> Just my two cents.
>>> Zach, KK4RUZ
>>>
>>> On 6/19/13, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>    =20
>>>> text of forwarded message follows:
>>>>
>>>>   From: Hand In Hand <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>   SOURCE: =
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343377/I-dont-care-Hidden-camera=
>>>> -catches-wireless-company-employees-passing-Obama-phones-people-say-theyl=
>>>> l-sell-drugs-shoes-handbags-spending-cash.html
>>>>
>>>>   =20
>>>>    =20
>>>>   Tuesday, Jun 18 201312PM 80=B0F3PM82=B0F 5-Day Forecast
>>>>   EXCLUSIVE: Hidden camera catches wireless company employees passing =
>>>> out 'Obama phones' to people who say they'll SELL them for drugs,
>>>> shoes,
>>>> =
>>>> handbags and spending cash=20
>>>>     a.. The 'Lifeline' free-cell-phone scheme cost $2.2 BILLION last =
>>>> year alone, all of it from fees added to the phone bills of paying =
>>>> customers=20
>>>>     b.. The biggest beneficiary other than low-income consumers is =
>>>> billionaire Carlos Slim Helu, whose TracFone has collected $1.5 BILLION
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>> to date=20
>>>>     c.. One company told MailOnline it will fire a salesperson who =
>>>> laughed uproariously when a woman said she would sell her phone to buy
>>>> =
>>>> shoes=20
>>>>     d.. Conservative firebrand James O'Keefe sent undercover actors to
>>>> =
>>>> pose as 'Obama phone' seekers aiming to sell the goods; no one turned =
>>>> them down=20
>>>>     e.. Legislation in Congress would remove the cell phone component
>>>> of
>>>> =
>>>> the program, which launched in 1984 and covered only land lines until =
>>>> 2008=20
>>>>   By David Martosko In Washington
>>>>   PUBLISHED:02:01 EST, 18 June 2013| UPDATED:07:22 EST, 18 June 2013
>>>>    =20
>>>>   'If you're interested in learning -- wanting to know how much the =
>>>> phone's worth, [I] recommend you go to any pawn shop,' this Stand Up =
>>>> Wireless worker told conservative activist James O'Keefe's undercover =
>>>> plant. 'They'll be more than happy to tell you, OK?'
>>>>
>>>>   Undercover video shot in May by a conservative activist shows two =
>>>> corporate distributors of free cell phones handing out the mobile =
>>>> devices to people who have promised to sell them for drug money, to buy
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>> shoes and handbags, to pay off their bills, or just for extra spending
>>>> =
>>>> cash.
>>>>
>>>>   The 'Obama phone,' which made its ignominious YouTube debut outside a
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>> Cleveland, Ohio presidential campaign event last September, is a
>>>> project
>>>> =
>>>> of the Federal Communications Commission's 'Lifeline' program, which =
>>>> makes land line and mobile phones available to Americans who meet =
>>>> low-income requirements.
>>>>   Lifeline was a $2.19 billion program in 2012.
>>>>
>>>>   Recipients most commonly demonstrate their need by flashing an =
>>>> Electronic Benefits Transfer card to verify their eligibility for =
>>>> welfare payments, or by bringing tax statements to a phone provider.=20
>>>>
>>>>   The phones' legitimate purposes include poverty-level job applicants'
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>> use as contact numbers for job interviews and emergency contacts for =
>>>> children of single parents.
>>>>
>>>>   But when James O'Keefe, whose Project Veritas is a perennial thorn in
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>> the side of progressive policymakers, sent an undercover actor into a =
>>>> Stand Up Wireless location in Philadelphia, the man's stated purpose
>>>> was
>>>> =
>>>> to buy drugs.
>>>>
>>>>   'Once you guys give me this phone, it's my phone?' he asked an =
>>>> employee inside a Philadelphia brick-and-mortal Stand Up Wireless =
>>>> location. 'I can, like, sell it and stuff?'
>>>>
>>>>   'Whatever you want to do with it,' the worker replied.
>>>>
>>>>   'So I'm [going to] get some money for heroin,' he offered.
>>>>
>>>>   The employee coolly responded, 'Hey, I don't judge.'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> text of forwarded message ends:
>>>>
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