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COLLEEN ROTH <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Hello,
I can see that some people benefit from Lifeline and in some circustances a cellphone.
I have noticed, however, that some people end up having a cell phone from more than one provider.
Maybe we should just encourage more landline phones so they would benefit the whole family when children are left alone if a mom just has a cell phone.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
,to3 [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC

>
>
> track phone? more like crack phone hahahahahah
> 
> regards
> Colin
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
> 
> 
> >I shouldn't even  respond to this message, as I don't want to feed
> > trolls and spark debate on the list.  However, this being a ham hobby
> > list, I'm not really sure how or why this post would be applicable
> > here.
> > I'm not making a political statement here, or saying I'm on one side
> > or the other of this particular issue, but we're all just here to talk
> > radio, blindness issues, and generally rag chew.  This seems, at least
> > to me, to be a bit devisive.
> > Just my two cents.
> > Zach, KK4RUZ
> >
> > On 6/19/13, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>    =20
> >> text of forwarded message follows:
> >>
> >>   From: Hand In Hand <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >>   SOURCE: =
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343377/I-dont-care-Hidden-camera=
> >> comcatches-wireless-company-employees-passing-Obama-phones-people-say-theyl=
> >> l-sell-drugs-shoes-handbags-spending-cash.html
> >>
> >>   =20
> >>    =20
> >>   Tuesday, Jun 18 201312PM 80=B0F3PMBLEHB=B0F 5-Day Forecast
> >>   EXCLUSIVE: Hidden camera catches wireless company employees passing =
> >> out 'Obama phones' to people who say they'll SELL them for drugs, shoes, 
> >> =
> >> handbags and spending cash=20
> >>     a.. The 'Lifeline' free-cell-phone scheme cost $2.2 BILLION last =
> >> year alone, all of it from fees added to the phone bills of paying =
> >> customers=20
> >>     b.. The biggest beneficiary other than low-income consumers is =
> >> billionaire Carlos Slim Helu, whose TracFone has collected $1.5 BILLION =
> >> to date=20
> >>     c.. One company told MailOnline it will fire a salesperson who =
> >> laughed uproariously when a woman said she would sell her phone to buy =
> >> shoes=20
> >>     d.. Conservative firebrand James O'Keefe sent undercover actors to =
> >> pose as 'Obama phone' seekers aiming to sell the goods; no one turned =
> >> them down=20
> >>     e.. Legislation in Congress would remove the cell phone component of 
> >> =
> >> the program, which launched in 1984 and covered only land lines until =
> >> 2008=20
> >>   By David Martosko In Washington
> >>   PUBLISHEDCC02:01 EST, 18 June 2013| UPDATEDCC07:22 EST, 18 June 2013
> >>    =20
> >>   'If you're interested in learning — wanting to know how much the =
> >> phone's worth, [I] recommend you go to any pawn shop1' this Stand Up =
> >> Wireless worker told conservative activist James O'Keefe's undercover =
> >> plant. 'They'll be more than happy to tell you, OK"'
> >>
> >>   Undercover video shot in May by a conservative activist shows two =
> >> corporate distributors of free cell phones handing out the mobile =
> >> devices to people who have promised to sell them for drug money, to buy =
> >> shoes and handbags, to pay off their bills, or just for extra spending =
> >> cash.
> >>
> >>   The 'Obama phone1' which made its ignominious YouTube debut outside a =
> >> Cleveland, Ohio presidential campaign event last September, is a project 
> >> =
> >> of the Federal Communications Commission's 'Lifeline' program, which =
> >> makes land line and mobile phones available to Americans who meet =
> >> low-income requirements.
> >>   Lifeline was a $2.19 billion program in 2012.
> >>
> >>   Recipients most commonly demonstrate their need by flashing an =
> >> Electronic Benefits Transfer card to verify their eligibility for =
> >> welfare payments, or by bringing tax statements to a phone providerdd=20
> >>
> >>   The phones' legitimate purposes include poverty-level job applicants' =
> >> use as contact numbers for job interviews and emergency contacts for =
> >> children of single parents.
> >>
> >>   But when James O'Keefe, whose Project Veritas is a perennial thorn in =
> >> the side of progressive policymakers, sent an undercover actor into a =
> >> Stand Up Wireless location in Philadelphia, the man's stated purpose was 
> >> =
> >> to buy drugs.
> >>
> >>   'Once you guys give me this phone, it's my phone"' he asked an =
> >> employee inside a Philadelphia brick-and-mortal Stand Up Wireless =
> >> location. 'I can, like, sell it and stuff"'
> >>
> >>   'Whatever you want to do with x1' the worker replied.
> >>
> >>   'So I'm [going to] get some money for heroin1' he offered.
> >>
> >>   The employee coolly responded, 'Hey, I don't judge.'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> text of forwarded message ends:
> >> 

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