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Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 31 May 2013 18:26:58 -0600
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ah yes, the good old gender debate.  You know, relieving ones self has 
little to do with sexual activity...I mean sure, there are some different 
feddishes, but a washroom, restroom, bathroom whatever you want to call it, 
is for the purpose of relieving oneself.  Many countries in the world 
figured this out and the facilities are not gender specific.
I see it this way, and I speak from quite a fare bit of experience.  If you 
are a guy, take your kids into the mens washroom regardless of their 
gender...until such time as they can go by themselves.  If your a woman, the 
same holds true.
I've yet to go into a washroom where guys walk around with their rigging 
hanging out.
And I'm pretty sure women don't immediately strip naked and perform lude 
acts in the washroom such that children would be tramatized or whatever.
It's a real old fashioned and puritanical traddition and concept to separate 
mens and womens restrooms.
I know, I'll get all kinds of flack for saying that, but come on, europe 
knows this and there isn't men's and women's public washrooms.  There are 
public washrooms.
If your too much of a prude or are afraid you'll potentially glimse some 
portion of someones anatomy, which for most adults, is nothing they ain't 
seen before, then I suppose you might require a facility that is gender 
specific.  You would also probably allow some stranger to take your child 
into a restroom just so you don't have to offend the gender police.
not pointing fingers, I've just seen that too often.
I mistakenly used the women's washroom at the university I returned to after 
a couple years of being absent.  They had, while I was gone, switched the 
men's and women's washrooms around, but being there at night, there was very 
seldom anyone to let me know this.  The only time anyone else came in, was 
while I was already inside the cubical.
this went on for 6 months until one night a cleaning lady happened to see me 
heading for the washroom entrance and let me know, in quite a panicked 
manner, that it was the ladies hahahaha...oh well, shit happens right lol.
I always wondered why there was 8 stalls in there and why I couldn't find 
the stand up urinals...I wasn't going to go hunting though since putting 
your hand in one of those by accident isn't particularly enjoyable.

Anyway, the whole stupid arguement about weather men should take their 
daughters into men's rooms, or women take their son's into women's rooms is 
so petty and rediculous to me.
We argue and get uptight about that, and at the same time, the teen 
pregnancy rate in the United States is at an all time high.
There is something wrong with this picture.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Blind people and rest rooms


>I had to use an outhouse many times in my life. I mean the kind with the 
>wooden seats the necessary bugs and spider webs, etc.
> I also have stopped along the way and found a spot in the bushes.
> My grandmother and I even reiorted to a Coffee Can when necessary.
> I do have to say I like those restrooms which are designed as one small 
> room with everything in it for anyone.
> This works well too especially if you are a parent and have a child of a 
> different gender and do not want them to go into a bathroom unattended.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Howard Kaufman <[log in to unmask]>
> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
> Date: Friday, May 31, 2013 3:33 pm
> Subject: Re: Blind people and rest rooms
>
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>> And being prevents you from using a trough?  Guess you've never been to
>> Rigley Field. 

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