Ok Steve, that's what I thought.  Thanks, Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:22:13 -0500
Subject: Re: I-pods?

Jim,

You can only use an ipod with Wifi.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]
To: <[log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 17:21
Subject: I-pods?


 Richard, to use the I-pod, do you have to pay for a data link
 like you do with the I-phone, or can you just use it with your
 own router or hot spots where you can get public access? Jim
 WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: richard fiorello <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 13:22:24 -0800
 Subject: Re: Ipod vs the Plextalk or Stream?

 Hi;
 I know this wasn't directed to me but since I'm a rather new
 i-pod user can't say enough good about it.  It does take much
 more getting used to than something like the stream but you can
 generally use any app that you could use with the i-phone.  I do
 recommend a blue tooth key board while you are getting started.
 Works well with both nls and bookshare for starters and then you
 have things like pandora radio and tune in and many other things
 that I haven't discovered.  Although I haven't downloaded the 
app
 you can even download an app for echo link.  The prices for the
 apps are anywhere from 5 to 20 with a few minor exceptions.  Not
 familiar with the pocket but the new stream will be nice if you
 can listen to radio and do other things.  JUST my two cents.
 richard
 note

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Jim Gammon <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:02:28 -0800
 Subject: Ipod vs the Plextalk or Stream?

 Russ, have not thought of buying an IPOD.  I know they are
 accessible with VoiceOver, how are they to use and what are the
 advantages over the PlexTalk or say updated VR Stream? Jim 
WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Russ Kiehne <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:08:19 -0800
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 When you get the update, let us know.  I don't use my plextalk
 pocket very
 much any more for streaming radio.  I use the tunin radio app on
 my ipod
 touch.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Jim Gammon
 Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:02 PM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 Yah, I'm hoping to use the same internet rajio folder when the
 Stream is able to recognize it.  Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Russ Kiehne <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 06:57:24 -0800
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 If the Stream works like the plextalk pocket, you could probably
 use the
 plextalk pocket files.  I use my Ipad mini to read books from
 bard.  I can
 directly download books to it.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Jim Gammon
 Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 10:52 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 Russ, it will indeed be interesting to see how they manage
 Internet radio on the Stream.  I have been  wondering the same
 thing.  When I did download a BARD book on the Apex, the only
 thing I couldn't seem to do is to move the new book in a 
separate
 folder to the SD card containing the stuff that I play on the VR
 Stream.  It would only copy all the files to the DBT directory
 where you could play the book but it wouldn't just move the
 folder over to the card.  Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Russ Kiehne <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 07:19:01 -0800
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 Interesting on the streaming radio.  I wonder if it will work
 like the
 plextalk pocket.  I heard some talk about also being able to
 download books
 from bard on it.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Jim Gammon
 Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:00 PM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 Other than the strange anomaly that just happened, I love it.
 It's louder then the original one and you can also download 
stuff
 from NFB newsline directly to it.  I hear that come the first of
 the year, they will have an update that will allow us to listen
 to streaming radio on it.  Can't wait and hope it works fine.
 73, Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Russ Kiehne <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 06:37:33 -0800
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 Great, glad you got it working again?
 How do you like the second generation Stream?

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Jim Gammon
 Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:55 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 Well, that solution didn't help though I tried it.  But like I
 indicated in an earlier post, the thing is working again.
 Thanks, Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Russ Kiehne <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:33:05 -0800
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 This speaker problem is a known issue with the first generation
 victor
 reader stream.  Several people have been able to fix it by
 plugging and
 unplugging headphones several times.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Bob, K8LR
 Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:42 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream

 Jim,

 The earphone and speaker volumes are separate.  Try turning up
 the volume
 with the player playing in to the speaker.  I have a newer
 vrstream ana so
 far so good.

 Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]
 To: <[log in to unmask]
 Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:54 AM
 Subject: Rebooting my Victor Reader Stream


 Update, I tried an earphone on the Stream and it's working, just
 not through the speaker.  It's 100 percent charged.  When I
 plugged in the headphone, the volume was all the way down.  I
 tried turning up the volume while the thing was playing and
 unplugged the headphone.  Holding down the up volume did no 
good.
 Either the part of the computer that controls the speaker is
 messed up, the speaker itself is messed up, or the headphone 
plug
 has an issue with it.  My earlier email is below.
  Does anyone on the list have a newer Victor Reader Stream? I
 tried to turn mine on earlier today and it just flat wouldn't
 boot up.  It wasn't run down and I charged it even so before
 trying to turn it on again.  I removed the battery and pushed 
the
 on button, then replaced the battery and same results.  At
 present, I have removed  the battery  and am just letting it sit
 with no power to it.  If anyone knows of a way to reset the 
thing
 I'd like to know.  It's a bummer to have a bunch of books to 
read
 and no way to read them.  Jim WA6EKS