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Most people I know with 2 cell providers it's because they have a personal 
phone and a work phone. I would never have a land line phone if cell phones 
worked in this house, and now with a little one around I suppose it's nice 
for emergencies but I still find it one of the biggest annoyances since it 
never is for me, and never rings at a convenient time. I much prefer people 
contact me in a way I have control over like email or something because as 
little as the phone rings it never once has ever been a convenient time. At 
least the cell I can put them in voice mail and not listen to it ring for 
long.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Obama phones and the FCC


> Hello,
> I can see that some people benefit from Lifeline and in some circustances 
> a cellphone.
> I have noticed, however, that some people end up having a cell phone from 
> more than one provider.
> Maybe we should just encourage more landline phones so they would benefit 
> the whole family when children are left alone if a mom just has a cell 
> phone.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:57 pm
> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>
>>
>>
>> track phone? more like crack phone hahahahahah
>>
>> regards
>> Colin
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>>
>>
>> >I shouldn't even  respond to this message, as I don't want to feed
>> > trolls and spark debate on the list.  However, this being a ham hobby
>> > list, I'm not really sure how or why this post would be applicable
>> > here.
>> > I'm not making a political statement here, or saying I'm on one side
>> > or the other of this particular issue, but we're all just here to talk
>> > radio, blindness issues, and generally rag chew.  This seems, at least
>> > to me, to be a bit devisive.
>> > Just my two cents.
>> > Zach, KK4RUZ
>> >
>> > On 6/19/13, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >>    =20
>> >> text of forwarded message follows:
>> >>
>> >>   From: Hand In Hand <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>
>> >>   SOURCE: =
>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343377/I-dont-care-Hidden-camera=
>> >> comcatches-wireless-company-employees-passing-Obama-phones-people-say-theyl=
>> >> l-sell-drugs-shoes-handbags-spending-cash.html
>> >>
>> >>   =20
>> >>    =20
>> >>   Tuesday, Jun 18 201312PM 80=B0F3PMBLEHB=B0F 5-Day Forecast
>> >>   EXCLUSIVE: Hidden camera catches wireless company employees passing 
>> >> =
>> >> out 'Obama phones' to people who say they'll SELL them for drugs, 
>> >> shoes,
>> >> =
>> >> handbags and spending cash=20
>> >>     a.. The 'Lifeline' free-cell-phone scheme cost $2.2 BILLION last =
>> >> year alone, all of it from fees added to the phone bills of paying =
>> >> customers=20
>> >>     b.. The biggest beneficiary other than low-income consumers is =
>> >> billionaire Carlos Slim Helu, whose TracFone has collected $1.5 
>> >> BILLION =
>> >> to date=20
>> >>     c.. One company told MailOnline it will fire a salesperson who =
>> >> laughed uproariously when a woman said she would sell her phone to buy 
>> >> =
>> >> shoes=20
>> >>     d.. Conservative firebrand James O'Keefe sent undercover actors to 
>> >> =
>> >> pose as 'Obama phone' seekers aiming to sell the goods; no one turned 
>> >> =
>> >> them down=20
>> >>     e.. Legislation in Congress would remove the cell phone component 
>> >> of
>> >> =
>> >> the program, which launched in 1984 and covered only land lines until 
>> >> =
>> >> 2008=20
>> >>   By David Martosko In Washington
>> >>   PUBLISHEDCC02:01 EST, 18 June 2013| UPDATEDCC07:22 EST, 18 June 2013
>> >>    =20
>> >>   'If you're interested in learning - wanting to know how much the =
>> >> phone's worth, [I] recommend you go to any pawn shop1' this Stand Up =
>> >> Wireless worker told conservative activist James O'Keefe's undercover 
>> >> =
>> >> plant. 'They'll be more than happy to tell you, OK"'
>> >>
>> >>   Undercover video shot in May by a conservative activist shows two =
>> >> corporate distributors of free cell phones handing out the mobile =
>> >> devices to people who have promised to sell them for drug money, to 
>> >> buy =
>> >> shoes and handbags, to pay off their bills, or just for extra spending 
>> >> =
>> >> cash.
>> >>
>> >>   The 'Obama phone1' which made its ignominious YouTube debut outside 
>> >> a =
>> >> Cleveland, Ohio presidential campaign event last September, is a 
>> >> project
>> >> =
>> >> of the Federal Communications Commission's 'Lifeline' program, which =
>> >> makes land line and mobile phones available to Americans who meet =
>> >> low-income requirements.
>> >>   Lifeline was a $2.19 billion program in 2012.
>> >>
>> >>   Recipients most commonly demonstrate their need by flashing an =
>> >> Electronic Benefits Transfer card to verify their eligibility for =
>> >> welfare payments, or by bringing tax statements to a phone 
>> >> providerdd=20
>> >>
>> >>   The phones' legitimate purposes include poverty-level job 
>> >> applicants' =
>> >> use as contact numbers for job interviews and emergency contacts for =
>> >> children of single parents.
>> >>
>> >>   But when James O'Keefe, whose Project Veritas is a perennial thorn 
>> >> in =
>> >> the side of progressive policymakers, sent an undercover actor into a 
>> >> =
>> >> Stand Up Wireless location in Philadelphia, the man's stated purpose 
>> >> was
>> >> =
>> >> to buy drugs.
>> >>
>> >>   'Once you guys give me this phone, it's my phone"' he asked an =
>> >> employee inside a Philadelphia brick-and-mortal Stand Up Wireless =
>> >> location. 'I can, like, sell it and stuff"'
>> >>
>> >>   'Whatever you want to do with x1' the worker replied.
>> >>
>> >>   'So I'm [going to] get some money for heroin1' he offered.
>> >>
>> >>   The employee coolly responded, 'Hey, I don't judge.'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> text of forwarded message ends:
>> >>
> 

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