Question for the great unwashed, me. What does S M A mean? Doug, N6NFF

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kelvin Marsh
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 1:57 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes

Hi Russell,

I usually buy the Window-Eyes SMA, because the savings against the cost of
the individual upgrades is significant.  As someone else said, if you don't
keep up-to-date, you end up paying to catch up, so you may as well get the
latest improvements when they become available!

Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID

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-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Russell Schermer
Sent: 25 August 2013 23:28
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes

I am not and never been a JAWS user. I know that not all upgrades count
against one's SMA, but it seems that jaws does major upgrades more
frequently than Window-eyes. I think both manufacturers gouge the customers
when it comes to upgrades especially if you don't purchase an SMA and don't
upgrade every time a new upgrade comes out.

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes

And, I hate to get in an argument Russell, but your point is?  You
apparently aren't a Jaws user, or you don't have Jaws set to inform you of
updates?  Since the release of the first version of Jaws 14 last November,
there have been five releases that don't coount against your upgrade count.
There were similar releases for Jaws 13.

Both screen readers have their positive aspects.  I do like the fact I can
bring Win-Eyes for for that matter, NVDA up in Safe Mode.  I don't know if
Jaws will incorporate that in the Jaws 15 beta which they will have an
FsCast on this week.  I do like the convenient OCR feature in Jaws which has
enabled me to install software that was previously inaccessible at least as
far as the installation was concerned.

Steve, K8SP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Schermer" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes


> Window-eyes also has SMA's, but only for major upgrades. GW Micro provides
> minor upgrades for free.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Anthony Vece
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:22 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes
>
> Hey Tom;
>
> Also, don't forget about Serotek.
>
> Anthony
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!
>
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Jim:
>>=20
>> Yeah, I know about the Jaws SMA's.
>>=20
>> Fortunately, for me, the University purchases my SMA's, although I
> haven't=
> =20
>> asked them too for the past year, since the updates really don't seem
> to=20=
>
>> provide that much, and I try only to ask for what I absolutely need.
>>=20
>> Of course, this will all change when I retire in a few years, at which
> tim=
> e,=20
>> I'm not sure what I'll do.
>>=20
>> Sure makes the MAC option appealing down the road!
>>=20
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Jaws or WindowEyes
>>=20
>>=20
>>> Tom, I have both but use WindowEyes much more than JFW.  Also, I
>>> don't have any SMA's for Jaws updates and the stupid software is
>>> too expensive! Jim WA6EKS
>>>=20
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Date sent: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:52:33 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>=20
>>> Jim:
>>>=20
>>> I forget:
>>>=20
>>> Do you use Jaws or Window Eyes?
>>>=20
>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>=20
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I just tried QRZ.com again and was able to click on email and get
>>> the
>>> address unlike earlier times.  So I guess I will have to retract
>>> my
>>> comment
>>> about QRZ.com being very user unfriendly and say it's only
>>> somewhat
>>> unfriendly.  Not that it matters for this list, but it reminded
>>> me that I
>>> need to upgrade my photo on that site, it was taken at my old
>>> QTH.  Jim
>>> WA6EKS
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tom Behler
>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:20 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>=20
>>> Thanks, Curtis.
>>>=20
>>> Will definitely give this a try.
>>>=20
>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>=20
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Curtis Delzer" <[log in to unmask]
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Hi all, why not use this site for call sign lookups.
>>> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp
>>>=20
>>> works fine!
>>>=20
>>> Curtis Delzer.
>>> HS.
>>>=20
>>> K 6 V F O
>>> San Bernardino, CA.
>>>=20
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>=20
>>> skype: curtis1014
>>>=20



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