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Amen, Amen, And Amen!

Angel doesn't have a mean bone in her body!

She is Loving!

Doris, You are Loving!

All of you are Loving!



Thanks much.

Many Blessings,

Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.

At 12:12 PM 3/11/2014, you wrote:
>oh, no! AMs. Angel is not cynical or sarcastic! She and I do not 
>agree on each and every christian teaching or standpoint but we both 
>love God and have a committed relationship to him. being cynical 
>would be divisive and hurtful. Ms. angel doesn't have a hurtful bone 
>in her body.
>
>I think it is very important that we as christians do not live as 
>the world lives. we can agree to disagree on some details but need 
>to stand firm on the fundamentals of the christian faith. in the 
>end, we just need to trust god for all the answers and can rest in 
>that. I think phils  insight here is important even though I might 
>differ on some of the details how god reveals himself.
>
>In his grip of grace!
>
>Doris
>
>
>
>in his grip of grace!
>
>DAt 12:59 PM 3/11/2014 -0400, you wrote:
>>I wasn't being cynical nor sarcastic.  I have never been sarcastic 
>>in my life.  As I believe sarcasm is hateful and springs from a 
>>heart filled with hate.  I said that because if the government has 
>>its way, more of those who failed to make their opinions against a 
>>Godless government known wherever there is a chance for them to be 
>>known, there will be a lot more things for which prayer might be 
>>required.  It is harder for Christians to be contented in a 
>>situation wherein their Christian way of life  is  threatened.  I 
>>think if we don't discuss politics wherever Christians are 
>>gathered, or who write on Christian lists because such touches 
>>every Christian, there will be fewer and fewer places where such 
>>discussions will be allowed to take place.  Did you know the 
>>government is already reading our E-mails and tweets?  If one can't 
>>discuss politics on a Christian supportive list as is this one, how 
>>is one suppose to ask for prayer, as I did a while back on this 
>>list, that priests contracted by the government to serve the 
>>military be allowed to continue serving when the government was 
>>closed.  They were forbidden to serve then, and those who needed to 
>>worship were forced to find outside priests off military bases to 
>>perform weddings and baptisms, ETC.  These independent contracted 
>>military priests weren't even allowed by the government to 
>>volunteer to serve without pay during the time the government was 
>>closed.  Isn't this political?  Should I not have asked for prayer, 
>>and should I not have expressed on a list such as this my wonder at 
>>how a government could be persecuting us so?   I suppose if I 
>>shouldn't have asked this, nor wondered at the callousness of a 
>>government who wouldn't even allow volunteers to officiate at a 
>>sacramental event, then there might not be a place on a list as 
>>this for me either?
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Shepherd" 
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:30 AM
>>Subject: Re: I wish Christians could stay away from politics for once!
>>
>>
>>>Do you really wish those of us whom you may see as apathetic the 
>>>best, or is there a touch of cynicism and are you being sarcastic?
>>>
>>>Regarding where to discuss these issues, you could discuss them 
>>>with friends or neighbors, at church or a number of places, and 
>>>there are, I am sure, several Christian political lists that one 
>>>might join to discuss this very thing.  In fact, I believe Pat 
>>>might know of one.  There are also many news outlets where one can 
>>>get the news from a Christian prospective.  Therefore, I continue 
>>>to maintain that politics has no place here if this is to be a 
>>>list focused on Christ and to the edification of Christian believers.
>>>
>>>Apathetic, never!!!  My husband believes as Bev does regarding the 
>>>current administration; I do not!  However, I do believe in 
>>>sensitivity to the discomfort of others as much as possible.
>>>
>>>I personally think Bev is wrong, but I love her and would hate to 
>>>see her leave the list simply because of a minority political view point.
>>>
>>>Jackie
>>>
>>>At 06:56 PM 2014-03-10, you wrote:
>>>>Then I wish you all the best when you suffer as a result of what 
>>>>this current administration is doing.  As for me, and for my 
>>>>house, we will stand against those who are trying to take away 
>>>>our religious freedom to worship, and to pay for what we 
>>>>choose.  I will encourage you in your apathetic reaction to the 
>>>>threat Christians face.  When home schools are prohibited, and 
>>>>when all reference to our most holy faiths is removed from 
>>>>schools.  As it is being done, and has been since prayer was 
>>>>removed from public schools. I dare say children today don't even 
>>>>know the second verse of "my country t'is of thee"  Because the 
>>>>first line says "Our father God to thee, author of liberty."  I 
>>>>use to sing that song, both verses in public school.  Would you 
>>>>believe?  If we don't discuss such things on a list such as this, 
>>>>where on earth are we to discuss them?
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Shepherd" 
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:13 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: I wish Christians could stay away from politics for once!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am reluctantly compelled to agree with Bev, not about the 
>>>>>politics, but that it should not be a topic of discussion on the 
>>>>>list.  It is my opinion that the list could be used for 
>>>>>encouragement, prayer, topics of a scriptural nature, and Christ 
>>>>>centered discussions and devotional material. Messages I've 
>>>>>seen, some on the list, but most off, are nothing but hate 
>>>>>filled government/President bashing tyrades; and I wonder how 
>>>>>many people did their homework to see if these were true!  It 
>>>>>certainly isn't a very good example of loving Christians; and I 
>>>>>wonder how much it shows that we trust and leave all things to 
>>>>>the Lord.  Romans 8:28 says this much better than I ever could.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jackie
>>>>>At 02:28 PM 2014-03-10, you wrote:
>>>>>>Hi All!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, I guess my subject line says what's on my mind.For 
>>>>>>several years, now I've deliberately stayed away from most 
>>>>>>Christian groups, due to the disappointment I always experience 
>>>>>>because I'm so tired of politics always coming up as the topic. 
>>>>>>I so wish Christians could get back to discussing scripture and 
>>>>>>talking about the Lord and quit all the bashing, hatred, fear 
>>>>>>and hostility for our president and our government. To be 
>>>>>>honest, even though I am a professing Christian, this whole 
>>>>>>politic thing has caused me to want to stay away from most 
>>>>>>Christian circles for the past I don't know how many years, 
>>>>>>yet, I hate doing that as well, because I miss sharing with 
>>>>>>other Christians about our Lord Jesus .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bev
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