I understand your point now, John, and have heard it before. I've just
never thought it to be an issue.
Thanks.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: correction, was: Re: Wise Men
> Oops, I meant babe, not bate.
>
> At 10:18 AM 12/27/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >Paul, verse 11 is part of the issue. What bothers me is that in most
> >nativity scenes, the wise men are shown to be at His birth. I believe
this
> >to be inaccurate, and if one studies Matthew 2, I believe one will find
> >that the wise men didn't come until a couple of years later. By then,
our
> >Lord was no longer a bate, but a child, and no longer in a stable, but in
a
> >house. I don't believe this is pointless conjecture.
> >
> >At 10:15 AM 12/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >I was referring to Matthew 2:11, John. Is that the verse you have a
problem
> > >with? Setting aside semantics about "wise men" and "gifts", unless
JESUS
> > >was older than 4 or 5 (which would be tough to prove) I think he still
> > >qualified as a baby. So I don't get your point. Not that it makes any
> > >difference to me. I think that kind of thing leads just to pointless
> > >conjecture.
> > >
> > >Paul
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 7:01 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Wise Men
> > >
> > >
> > > > Paul, I don't believe that the wise men brought gifts to Jesus when
> > he was
> > > > a baby. I don't believe that they showed up for a couple of years
or so.
> > > >
> > > > At 08:25 AM 12/26/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >Okay, so we all know that the real meaning of Christmas is the Gift
of
> > >JESUS
> > > > >and that He gave Himself for us. But let's not forget that the
wise men
> > > > >brought gifts to Baby JESUS. And it's a wise thing to give gifts
to
> > > > >Italians, too. So, in the Spirit of gift-giving, let's hear what
> > >everyone's
> > > > >favorite gifts they got this year are. And the worst gifts. Okay,
you
> > >can
> > > > >say "the worst gifts ever" so people won't know it was something
you got
> > > > >this year and track you down. Smile. Let's hear it, folks,
especially
> > >from
> > > > >those of you who are returning things today. You know who you are.
> > > > >
> > > > >My favorite gift is a ceramic cookie jar that is a lifesize yellow
lab
> > > > >puppy. My friends out west sent it, knowing I love yellow labs and
had
> > > > >planned on getting one (that was what I thought my last dog was
when I
> > >got
> > > > >her from the pound, but it turned out she was a mutt and didn't
grow at
> > >all,
> > > > >but shed as much hair as two huge yellow labs. Smile.) But I had
mixed
> > > > >emotions about it because I gave the dog away last year when I got
sick
> > >and
> > > > >a friend of a friend asked if she could have her for her
> > children. Since
> > > > >the dog was alone all day while I was at work I gave her to them.
So I
> > >did
> > > > >have an emotional moment when first opening this gift since it
reminded
> > >me
> > > > >so much of my dog (whom I miss very much)....well, she's not "my"
dog
> > > > >anymore. Anyway, I was going to give the cookie jar to them but
now am
> > > > >trying to talk myself out of it since it looks so good on my hearth
> > and I
> > > > >keep telling myself "It doesn't look THAT much like your dog, after
all,
> > >and
> > > > >the small kids will probably break it anyway and hurt themselves!"
> > > > >
> > > > >Be that as it may, let's hear it about the best and worst of gifts
that
> > >you
> > > > >all got!
> > > > >
> > > > >Greedy So and So Lion Holding Onto The Cookie Jar Even Though It's
Empty
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > I hate a quarrel because it interrupts an argument. --
> > > > Gilbert Keith Chesterton<*>
> >
> >John
> >
> >You raise your voice when you should reinforce your
> >argument. -- Dr. Samuel Johnson<*>
>
> John
>
> You raise your voice when you should reinforce your
> argument. -- Dr. Samuel Johnson<*>
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