Amen. I am not sure I will ever become a catholic but I surely find
my own faith a lot more reflected in catholicism than with
fundamentalist evangelical teaching.
should i even mention this: I do not view the birth control bill as
abortion as this is imo dublicating a natural process of a human -
even fertilized - egg not taking to nesting in the womb and growing to term.
hugs,
Doris
At 10:20 AM 2014/03/04 -0500, you wrote:
>No they aren't in conflict. I think our origins are irrelevant to
>me. Understanding our origins will not, as far as I can tell, assist
>me in my successful journey toward heaven. So, why should I care
>either way. I understand we share common elements because we share
>life with lower animals and with plants. It is our commonality
>which causes us to interact so smoothly with domestic animals. who
>make our lives easier by working for us. An example of which is the
>Guide dog or guide horse. Or those dogs used to herd animals. Thus
>making our human work and lleasure easier. Studding what we hold in
>common with lower animals and plants also makes it an easier thing
>to more perfectly understand ourselves.
>Which is why medical science was able to make the progress it did
>before it was legal to dissect the human cadaver. Thus the
>commonality we share with lower creatures and with plants was
>designed to provide for us a more perfect understanding of how it
>was God created us all. It also gives to us a more perfect
>understanding of our intellectual processes. Because each fully
>formed concept goes through a similar creative process as God
>expressed when he created the universe. Which is why we are created
>in Gods image. As we are the only creatures with the ability to
>understand and to use intellect, and to create as does
>He. This is why Satan can only get his will to be done on
>earth. Because he can only do so through manipulation of us through
>the use of the human weaknesses, and ignorance with which we are all
>plagued. As he needs us to partner with him.
>He can not create as can we.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:00 AM
>Subject: Re: Prayer - Attention Doris
>
>
>>actually, we share 98.7 % of the same dna according to francis collins. *g*
>>
>>
>>
>>for me, my faith and my interest in evolution are no conflict. are
>>they for you?
>>
>>hugs,
>>
>>Doris
>>
>>for At 06:21 AM 2014/03/04 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Why do the grate apes live on bananas and aren't diabetic or
>>>depressed? The grate apes have 97 percent of human DNA. So, they
>>>can properly be chosen as examples. Why, when we domesticate
>>>animals are they infected by all sorts of human diseases unknown
>>>to them in the wild? One should never depend on personal likes
>>>and dislikes to determine what one eats. Rather one should only
>>>eat what is best for the optimal functioning of our bodies and our
>>>brains. One should never burden our internal organs with
>>>unnecessary work. As we do when we eat more sugar than our cells
>>>can properly absorb. Because as all things die, too much overwork
>>>can cause organs to prematurely die before the rest of our bodies
>>>do. We wouldn't ask our friends or our family to do more work
>>>than they can safely and healthily do. Particularly if they are
>>>as good to us as are our internal organs. Then why should we
>>>expect our liver or our kidneys or pancreas to do more work than
>>>they need to do to keep our bodies functioning? Since I heard of
>>>more and more people being somehow drug dependent, and having to
>>>depend for their existence on physicians, and getting type II
>>>diabetes I have asked myself these questions.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 11:30 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Prayer - Attention Doris
>>>
>>>
>>>>strawberries, grapes and bananas, while healthy in their own
>>>>right in moderation, are rich in fast carbs and thus not the kind
>>>>of food a diabetic should have a lot of.
>>>>
>>>>a lot of things simply take a while for the body to adjust to. it
>>>>does with me. I always went potty more than once a day but doing
>>>>it a lot more often now. *g* chris is watching my input and
>>>>output and while I am quite productive currently, it is not the
>>>>runs. If you want to live healthily, you will just have to teach
>>>>your body to like what is good for it.
>>>>
>>>>This does work as i did it once before long before I was diabetic
>>>>to ward off a chronic candida (yeast) infection where I was
>>>>allergic to several of the antifungal grugs used.
>>>>
>>>>praying for you!
>>>>
>>>>Doris and chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 09:35 PM 2014/03/03 -0600, you wrote:
>>>>>I have to ask, what kinds of foods make a person feel more full?
>>>>>I know I eat way too much carbs, but I don't seem to know what
>>>>>else to eat. I like vegetables, but raw vegetables seem to give
>>>>>me more tummy issues than they're worth. I'm having a horrible
>>>>>time knowing what to eat. I don't like much in the way of fresh
>>>>>fruit. I do like apples, grapes and strawberries, but there
>>>>>aren't many other fresh fruits I like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bev
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:23 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Prayer - Attention Doris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, Phil,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, the many things I learned to enjoy and eat while in the
>>>>>>hospital have me full and not craving any sweets and I have
>>>>>>been losing weight. Some of my clothes now seem almost like a
>>>>>>before and after commercial from some fad diet but they are not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>some of you have been personal friends and prayer partners for
>>>>>>many years. if things do get personal, I likewise will use pm
>>>>>>but with my diabetes, i am encouraged to learn different people;s experiences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>since i never liked most sweets I should be fine. oh, and in
>>>>>>germany, traditionally with most people the main meal is eaten around midday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>praying for just the right job or volunteer opportunity for ms
>>>>>>sandy and a contued gute besserung according to gods will for the both of you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>hugs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Doris and chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 08:58 PM 2014/03/02 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>>>>Doris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We can easily work something out. Does Germany have more than
>>>>>>>one time zone
>>>>>>>like the states having 4 time zones? According to my iPhone,
>>>>>>>Berlin is 8
>>>>>>>hours ahead of the Mountain Time Zone which I am in. I don't
>>>>>>>know where you live from
>>>>>>>Berlin's. I'm guessing therefore, we are 7 or 8 hours apart and I
>>>>>>>am behind you in time, of course. I'd enjoy talking to Chris
>>>>>>>as well and
>>>>>>>praying together, for that matter, too. I'm posting openly on
>>>>>>>the list so
>>>>>>>others can participate but otherwise, when things become more
>>>>>>>personal, I'll
>>>>>>>write privately offlist. I haven't been on my diabetes oral
>>>>>>>medication for
>>>>>>>3 weeks due to my weight loss and my low carb style of
>>>>>>>eating. I have done
>>>>>>>no exercising other than walking which I just started a couple
>>>>>>>of days ago.
>>>>>>>So, I lost 50 pounds in 5 months without being hungry and without
>>>>>>>exercising. Now I'm on the second half of my diet and off the
>>>>>>>medication
>>>>>>>for the high blood sugar so we can talk more about that
>>>>>>>later. I have been
>>>>>>>checking my sugar levels with my talking glucomitor a couple
>>>>>>>of times each
>>>>>>>day to make sure nothing gets out of control but I know now
>>>>>>>what I can eat,
>>>>>>>and not eat, to control the numbers. My sugar levels are
>>>>>>>normal and have
>>>>>>>been these last few weeks. I go to my doctor in a week for an A1C blood
>>>>>>>test but the levels have been normal for the past two years so
>>>>>>>he moved me
>>>>>>>from 3 months to 6 months apart for the A1C test to gives them
>>>>>>>the accurate
>>>>>>>reading over any period of time. My blood sugar levels were in the high
>>>>>>>rage during the 3 days I was in the hospital because they were giving me
>>>>>>>steroids to assist in the healing of my spine so they gave me
>>>>>>>shots to help
>>>>>>>keep it down during those 3 days but otherwise, I've had
>>>>>>>nothing. I can eat
>>>>>>>a lot of food because some foods have no carbohydrates at all
>>>>>>>and some foods
>>>>>>>even help cancel out other foods you are eating with high
>>>>>>>carbs content. I'm sure others
>>>>>>>on the list who are diabetics can testify to similar
>>>>>>>experiences. About 5
>>>>>>>years ago, when Vicki's husband John had open heart surgery,
>>>>>>>my blood sugar
>>>>>>>was in the 300 range. Now it runs about 107 to 110 unless I
>>>>>>>eat a meal that
>>>>>>>is elevated with high carbs and then it may jump 2 hours later
>>>>>>>to 155. It
>>>>>>>quickly drops back down, however, to 102 to 110 after those two hours of
>>>>>>>digestion of what I ate. To my amazement, I don't crave food
>>>>>>>except upon occasion and even then, only for brief periods of
>>>>>>>time. Sometimes I forget to eat our evening meal all
>>>>>>>together. We eat our main meal at noon because Sandy used to
>>>>>>>go to work in the middle of the afternoon so we have gotten
>>>>>>>used to having a big meal for our lunch at the noon hour. I've
>>>>>>>heard people say they forget to eat but I never believed it
>>>>>>>was possible until it began happening to me since June first of this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 7:05 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Prayer - Attention Doris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>that would be wonderful and any time we are not sleeping would work. we
>>>>>>>>would like for Chris to be included in prayer sessions as it
>>>>>>>>is him who is
>>>>>>>>facing a lot of responsibility with my diabetes and often
>>>>>>>>does not feel or
>>>>>>>>is not up to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Love in Christ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At 02:08 PM 2014/03/02 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Sandy is getting better each day but it is a slow
>>>>>>>>>process. I come out to
>>>>>>>>>my office often during most of the day and evening because she can get
>>>>>>>>>around using her walker and she has learned to walk without
>>>>>>>>>the walker for
>>>>>>>>>short distances. Whenever she needs me, since my office is on the
>>>>>>>>>opposite side of our home, she just calls me on our cell
>>>>>>>>>phones and I come
>>>>>>>>>running. I'm suggesting, therefore, we can work something
>>>>>>>>>out on skype to
>>>>>>>>>pray and talk sooner than I thought.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I Was Perfect Until I Met Jesus
>>>>>>>>><http://www.SafePlaceFellowship.com>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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