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You do bring up a fine point about the advantage of being allowed to invest 
our earnings ourselves.  Rather than having it all put in to social 
security.  To be stolen from.  So future generations will have nothing of 
what they put in to support us older people.  Is it any wonder we are 
resented by many young people.  This president will lead us in to world war 
III I suspect.  Due to his extreme hubris and incompetence.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood


> Doris,
>
> According to a majority of various poles taken, more than 50 percent of 
> voting Americans don't want national health care because we already have 
> it for those who are disabled or there is Medicare for those 65 years and 
> older which is national.  Plus, we have the VA, or Veterans 
> administration, and that covers our entire military personnel but it, too, 
> is limited and poorly managed and poorly maintained as far as health is 
> concerned.  Obama care hasn't even gotten off the ground and it's already 
> so far behind, people who once were covered with their own insurance 
> companies are going to be dying because they can't even get health through 
> the government that will supply their needs.  and it never will completely 
> do to the charges.  It isn't free, as most believe, because you literally 
> pay for it yourself and if you cannot pay the whole thing, money is taken 
> from others to fulfill the obligation.  Anyone in the United States, 
> including illegal aliens, often politically called undocumented 
> immigrants, can walk into any hospital emergency room any time of the day 
> or night and will be cared for even if they have no insurance of any kind 
> and regardless of what is wrong with them.  Of course, nothing is free and 
> somebody has to pay for it.  Sandy and I, for example, paid taxes and for 
> Medicare we now will be on as retired senior citizens, plus disability 
> insurance, me for 35 years, and Sandy for over 40 years, so that's a lot 
> of taxes to have paid for health coverage in our later years we are in 
> right now.  I'm more concerned about our president not keeping his big 
> mouth shut concerning the Russians at the moment.  He is going to paint 
> our country right into a corner we won't be able to get out of and with 
> our reduction of our military services to below pre world war 2, the U S 
> is going to have a big problem defending itself.  At least Germany has 
> excellent doctors, well trained, and our military overseas still uses 
> Germany, as you probably already know, to fly soldiers who have been badly 
> wounded to for the best care available before they can be sent back to the 
> states for recovery.  but the UK, and many other nationalist health 
> systems are not as fortunate.  I am, for example, quite concerned about 
> Carol who used to be on here because she isn't getting the medical care 
> she could get here or in Germany, for example.  British employed citizens 
> currently pay at least 60 percent of all their income for nationalist 
> services which is mostly health care.  The figures for the upper income 
> Americans pay about that now, too.  70 percent of all our taxes are paid 
> by people considered to me upper middle class and upper class starts at 
> 250,000 dollars a year. Sandy and I paid about 25 percent of our income 
> for taxes but it has changed so much over the years due to inflation, that 
> is, living expenses, that we will barely make ends meet living on our 
> social security we paid into, as I said, for the last 35 and 40 years so 
> that's a total of 75 years of taxes we paid together.  If we could have 
> invested even half of that, we'd be considered well to do, or upper middle 
> class, during these later years of life.  What we will be living on now 
> will be considered in the upper poor category of income levels.  In short, 
> we will have lost two thirds of our income we made working a job.  We can 
> still work but your income is limited but physically, of course, you have 
> to be able to work and I don't fall into that category.  That's why Sandy 
> wants to find a home employment job when she is fully recovered from this 
> most recent of surgeries on her hip.
>
> Phil.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>
>
>> Sheesh. we in general think that obama is doing a good think by 
>> introducing much needed social health care in the US but this is 
>> terrible. Mind you, from our view, an abortion would be justified if the 
>> mothers life was immediately in danger but not for social indication.
>>
>> it is society and not peoples lives that need change for that to happen.
>>
>> Doris and Chris in Germany
>>
>> At 04:54 AM 2014/03/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>>I take personal offence with the planned parenthood  organization.
>>>Because of its stand regarding contraception and abortion.  Which, in my 
>>>opinion is nothing more than infanticide.  Is it any wonder why those 
>>>clinics are in the poorest parts of all towns, and that the neighborhoods 
>>>in which they are located are black neighborhoods?  Just the other week I 
>>>heard a study was done, and that more dear black children were murdered 
>>>through abortions than were born?  We  must pray for the souls of all 
>>>these poor children, and for the enlightenment of their poor benighted 
>>>mothers.  That they might see, before it is too late, the harm they are 
>>>doing to their own immortal souls by having this done to them, and 
>>>allowing this horror to exist.  Without doing anything to stop it at all.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Phil Scovell
>>>To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>>>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 7:03 PM
>>>Subject: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>>>
>>>This week, someone knocked on our front door.  Nobody hardly ever does 
>>>that except for UPS and the mail man and even then, the knock is only to 
>>>let us know they are leaving a box on our front porch steps.  Otherwise, 
>>>everybody comes to what we call our side door which is the front of my 
>>>office on the side of the house.  This time it was someone from Planned 
>>>Parenthood and when asked what they wanted, they said they were just 
>>>checking to see if we, everyone living in this house in other words, were 
>>>signed up with Obama Care.  They said they were just going house to house 
>>>checking to see if people were signed up.  Your tax dollars at work for 
>>>the biggest abortion mill in North America.  55 million abortions and 
>>>counting.
>>>
>>>Phil.
>>>Living His Name
>>><http://www.SafePlaceFellowship.COM>WWW.SafePlaceFellowship.COM
>> 

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