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Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:46:04 -0400
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I don't ever intend to give up my landline phone; cell phones aren't all 
that reliable, and the sound quality stinks for the most part.  To me, 
having kids in the house is all the more reason to have a landline.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 15:56
Subject: Re: Obama phones and the FCC


> Most people I know with 2 cell providers it's because they have a personal
> phone and a work phone. I would never have a land line phone if cell 
> phones
> worked in this house, and now with a little one around I suppose it's nice
> for emergencies but I still find it one of the biggest annoyances since it
> never is for me, and never rings at a convenient time. I much prefer 
> people
> contact me in a way I have control over like email or something because as
> little as the phone rings it never once has ever been a convenient time. 
> At
> least the cell I can put them in voice mail and not listen to it ring for
> long.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Obama phones and the FCC
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I can see that some people benefit from Lifeline and in some circustances
>> a cellphone.
>> I have noticed, however, that some people end up having a cell phone from
>> more than one provider.
>> Maybe we should just encourage more landline phones so they would benefit
>> the whole family when children are left alone if a mom just has a cell
>> phone.
>> Colleen Roth
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
>> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:57 pm
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> track phone? more like crack phone hahahahahah
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Colin
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>>>
>>>
>>> >I shouldn't even  respond to this message, as I don't want to feed
>>> > trolls and spark debate on the list.  However, this being a ham hobby
>>> > list, I'm not really sure how or why this post would be applicable
>>> > here.
>>> > I'm not making a political statement here, or saying I'm on one side
>>> > or the other of this particular issue, but we're all just here to talk
>>> > radio, blindness issues, and generally rag chew.  This seems, at least
>>> > to me, to be a bit devisive.
>>> > Just my two cents.
>>> > Zach, KK4RUZ
>>> >
>>> > On 6/19/13, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >>    =20
>>> >> text of forwarded message follows:
>>> >>
>>> >>   From: Hand In Hand <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >>
>>> >>   SOURCE: =
>>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343377/I-dont-care-Hidden-camera=
>>> >> comcatches-wireless-company-employees-passing-Obama-phones-people-say-theyl=
>>> >> l-sell-drugs-shoes-handbags-spending-cash.html
>>> >>
>>> >>   =20
>>> >>    =20
>>> >>   Tuesday, Jun 18 201312PM 80=B0F3PMBLEHB=B0F 5-Day Forecast
>>> >>   EXCLUSIVE: Hidden camera catches wireless company employees passing
>>> >> =
>>> >> out 'Obama phones' to people who say they'll SELL them for drugs,
>>> >> shoes,
>>> >> =
>>> >> handbags and spending cash=20
>>> >>     a.. The 'Lifeline' free-cell-phone scheme cost $2.2 BILLION last 
>>> >> =
>>> >> year alone, all of it from fees added to the phone bills of paying =
>>> >> customers=20
>>> >>     b.. The biggest beneficiary other than low-income consumers is =
>>> >> billionaire Carlos Slim Helu, whose TracFone has collected $1.5
>>> >> BILLION =
>>> >> to date=20
>>> >>     c.. One company told MailOnline it will fire a salesperson who =
>>> >> laughed uproariously when a woman said she would sell her phone to 
>>> >> buy
>>> >> =
>>> >> shoes=20
>>> >>     d.. Conservative firebrand James O'Keefe sent undercover actors 
>>> >> to
>>> >> =
>>> >> pose as 'Obama phone' seekers aiming to sell the goods; no one turned
>>> >> =
>>> >> them down=20
>>> >>     e.. Legislation in Congress would remove the cell phone component
>>> >> of
>>> >> =
>>> >> the program, which launched in 1984 and covered only land lines until
>>> >> =
>>> >> 2008=20
>>> >>   By David Martosko In Washington
>>> >>   PUBLISHEDCC02:01 EST, 18 June 2013| UPDATEDCC07:22 EST, 18 June 
>>> >> 2013
>>> >>    =20
>>> >>   'If you're interested in learning - wanting to know how much the =
>>> >> phone's worth, [I] recommend you go to any pawn shop1' this Stand Up 
>>> >> =
>>> >> Wireless worker told conservative activist James O'Keefe's undercover
>>> >> =
>>> >> plant. 'They'll be more than happy to tell you, OK"'
>>> >>
>>> >>   Undercover video shot in May by a conservative activist shows two =
>>> >> corporate distributors of free cell phones handing out the mobile =
>>> >> devices to people who have promised to sell them for drug money, to
>>> >> buy =
>>> >> shoes and handbags, to pay off their bills, or just for extra 
>>> >> spending
>>> >> =
>>> >> cash.
>>> >>
>>> >>   The 'Obama phone1' which made its ignominious YouTube debut outside
>>> >> a =
>>> >> Cleveland, Ohio presidential campaign event last September, is a
>>> >> project
>>> >> =
>>> >> of the Federal Communications Commission's 'Lifeline' program, which 
>>> >> =
>>> >> makes land line and mobile phones available to Americans who meet =
>>> >> low-income requirements.
>>> >>   Lifeline was a $2.19 billion program in 2012.
>>> >>
>>> >>   Recipients most commonly demonstrate their need by flashing an =
>>> >> Electronic Benefits Transfer card to verify their eligibility for =
>>> >> welfare payments, or by bringing tax statements to a phone
>>> >> providerdd=20
>>> >>
>>> >>   The phones' legitimate purposes include poverty-level job
>>> >> applicants' =
>>> >> use as contact numbers for job interviews and emergency contacts for 
>>> >> =
>>> >> children of single parents.
>>> >>
>>> >>   But when James O'Keefe, whose Project Veritas is a perennial thorn
>>> >> in =
>>> >> the side of progressive policymakers, sent an undercover actor into a
>>> >> =
>>> >> Stand Up Wireless location in Philadelphia, the man's stated purpose
>>> >> was
>>> >> =
>>> >> to buy drugs.
>>> >>
>>> >>   'Once you guys give me this phone, it's my phone"' he asked an =
>>> >> employee inside a Philadelphia brick-and-mortal Stand Up Wireless =
>>> >> location. 'I can, like, sell it and stuff"'
>>> >>
>>> >>   'Whatever you want to do with x1' the worker replied.
>>> >>
>>> >>   'So I'm [going to] get some money for heroin1' he offered.
>>> >>
>>> >>   The employee coolly responded, 'Hey, I don't judge.'
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> text of forwarded message ends:
>>> >>
>>
> 

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