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Michael Thurman <[log in to unmask]>
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I had one of those phones  the lifeline hone and never used it because the phone they gave me   the only choice I had was completely unusable ad inaccessible. i could not even make calls because the keyboard was one flat piece of rubber. so it got tossed in a desk drawer  the hater gt lost and that was the end of it   I tried for a secod model  and this one I could use but it got stolen somewhere cause it disappeared and best i could figure it went along with my girlfriend's purse. now if i could get an accessible phone that would be fine, but you know they don't give a damn about weather we can use the device and sure won't give us an accessible handset. andI am sure that I can't just put the si in my uncooked handset that i do have  which is an old I phone with no service.

On Jun 20, 2013, at 3:24 PM, COLLEEN ROTH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello,
> I can see that some people benefit from Lifeline and in some circustances a cellphone.
> I have noticed, however, that some people end up having a cell phone from more than one provider.
> Maybe we should just encourage more landline phones so they would benefit the whole family when children are left alone if a mom just has a cell phone.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:57 pm
> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
> 
>> 
>> 
>> track phone? more like crack phone hahahahahah
>> 
>> regards
>> Colin
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>> 
>> 
>>> I shouldn't even  respond to this message, as I don't want to feed
>>> trolls and spark debate on the list.  However, this being a ham hobby
>>> list, I'm not really sure how or why this post would be applicable
>>> here.
>>> I'm not making a political statement here, or saying I'm on one side
>>> or the other of this particular issue, but we're all just here to talk
>>> radio, blindness issues, and generally rag chew.  This seems, at least
>>> to me, to be a bit devisive.
>>> Just my two cents.
>>> Zach, KK4RUZ
>>> 
>>> On 6/19/13, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>   =20
>>>> text of forwarded message follows:
>>>> 
>>>>  From: Hand In Hand <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> 
>>>>  SOURCE: =
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343377/I-dont-care-Hidden-camera=
>>>> comcatches-wireless-company-employees-passing-Obama-phones-people-say-theyl=
>>>> l-sell-drugs-shoes-handbags-spending-cash.html
>>>> 
>>>>  =20
>>>>   =20
>>>>  Tuesday, Jun 18 201312PM 80=B0F3PMBLEHB=B0F 5-Day Forecast
>>>>  EXCLUSIVE: Hidden camera catches wireless company employees passing =
>>>> out 'Obama phones' to people who say they'll SELL them for drugs, shoes, 
>>>> =
>>>> handbags and spending cash=20
>>>>    a.. The 'Lifeline' free-cell-phone scheme cost $2.2 BILLION last =
>>>> year alone, all of it from fees added to the phone bills of paying =
>>>> customers=20
>>>>    b.. The biggest beneficiary other than low-income consumers is =
>>>> billionaire Carlos Slim Helu, whose TracFone has collected $1.5 BILLION =
>>>> to date=20
>>>>    c.. One company told MailOnline it will fire a salesperson who =
>>>> laughed uproariously when a woman said she would sell her phone to buy =
>>>> shoes=20
>>>>    d.. Conservative firebrand James O'Keefe sent undercover actors to =
>>>> pose as 'Obama phone' seekers aiming to sell the goods; no one turned =
>>>> them down=20
>>>>    e.. Legislation in Congress would remove the cell phone component of 
>>>> =
>>>> the program, which launched in 1984 and covered only land lines until =
>>>> 2008=20
>>>>  By David Martosko In Washington
>>>>  PUBLISHEDCC02:01 EST, 18 June 2013| UPDATEDCC07:22 EST, 18 June 2013
>>>>   =20
>>>>  'If you're interested in learning — wanting to know how much the =
>>>> phone's worth, [I] recommend you go to any pawn shop1' this Stand Up =
>>>> Wireless worker told conservative activist James O'Keefe's undercover =
>>>> plant. 'They'll be more than happy to tell you, OK"'
>>>> 
>>>>  Undercover video shot in May by a conservative activist shows two =
>>>> corporate distributors of free cell phones handing out the mobile =
>>>> devices to people who have promised to sell them for drug money, to buy =
>>>> shoes and handbags, to pay off their bills, or just for extra spending =
>>>> cash.
>>>> 
>>>>  The 'Obama phone1' which made its ignominious YouTube debut outside a =
>>>> Cleveland, Ohio presidential campaign event last September, is a project 
>>>> =
>>>> of the Federal Communications Commission's 'Lifeline' program, which =
>>>> makes land line and mobile phones available to Americans who meet =
>>>> low-income requirements.
>>>>  Lifeline was a $2.19 billion program in 2012.
>>>> 
>>>>  Recipients most commonly demonstrate their need by flashing an =
>>>> Electronic Benefits Transfer card to verify their eligibility for =
>>>> welfare payments, or by bringing tax statements to a phone providerdd=20
>>>> 
>>>>  The phones' legitimate purposes include poverty-level job applicants' =
>>>> use as contact numbers for job interviews and emergency contacts for =
>>>> children of single parents.
>>>> 
>>>>  But when James O'Keefe, whose Project Veritas is a perennial thorn in =
>>>> the side of progressive policymakers, sent an undercover actor into a =
>>>> Stand Up Wireless location in Philadelphia, the man's stated purpose was 
>>>> =
>>>> to buy drugs.
>>>> 
>>>>  'Once you guys give me this phone, it's my phone"' he asked an =
>>>> employee inside a Philadelphia brick-and-mortal Stand Up Wireless =
>>>> location. 'I can, like, sell it and stuff"'
>>>> 
>>>>  'Whatever you want to do with x1' the worker replied.
>>>> 
>>>>  'So I'm [going to] get some money for heroin1' he offered.
>>>> 
>>>>  The employee coolly responded, 'Hey, I don't judge.'
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> text of forwarded message ends:
>>>> 

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