Hi Colin, one suggestion might be to use a couple of good long 
lag boalts to fix each side of the headphone firmly to your face.  
You may want to sterilize the lag boalts before you install them, 
Smile! Jim WA6EKS


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From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]
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Date sent: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:39:49 -0600
Subject: Re: Interesting headphones!

there is nothing unpleasant about these after shocks at all.  
Like I said,
they're very clear and crisp and great for speech audio like your 
phone, or
whatever random talking device all of us seem to carry about with 
us these
days.
However, they do sound rather different than a dynamic driver in 
a set of
headphones up against your ears.  First to be noticed is the 
lacking low end
response that a moving speaker cone gives to the human ear.  If 
you press
the aftershock pieces against the bones of your face, you can get 
all that
and more bass back, and it's actually stronger than with head
phones...however, pressing that hard will be uncomfortable after 
a couple
minutes.
They do have a tension adjustment, but it's not like it can be 
made to press
hard into the side of your face or anything.  They more or less 
sit on the
surface of your skin.  And yep, if you have a little bit extra 
flesh around
your cheek bones they won't work as well as if your skinny as a 
post lol.
The high end response is good up to probably 5K and then rolls 
off unless
again, you press the things hard into your skin.
When people say they have allot of bass, yes, they do, but most 
of that is
vibrations on your skin or flesh of your face, not actual energy 
transfering
into the bones.  If someone bangs a sledge hammer on the floor of 
your car
in time with your music, then it can appear as though there is 
allot of bass
happening, in fact, years ago, there were some car audio gismo's 
that did
this very thing...but it's impact, rather than actual frequency 
energy being
passed into the ear or the bones around your ears.
When I was researchhing these, almost all the stuff I found about 
them on
the internet was promotional marketting stuff.  There was no real 
world user
reviews of them to give a person a true understanding of how they 
sound and
where they work best
I borrowed a set from a friend and tried them for a few days like 
I said.
While I was impressed at what they did, and the novelty of it a 
little bit,
I didn't really think they were the best thing since sliced 
bread.  I didn't
really think they were as cutting edge a product as the 
marketting and
promotional vidios and write ups say.
I guess at the end of the day I liked them well enough for what 
they work
best at, but there was a bit of a let down after reading and 
listening to
others go on and on about how great and wonderful they were.
The price isn't bad since a good quality set of headphones is 
over 100 bucks
anyway.

I couldn't justify buying these over say the headphones I get for 
4 bucks at
a discount electronics retailer.
However, they do free up your ears for listening, they aren't 
distracting to
wear or to listen to while doing other things.  They don't look 
odd because
lots of people wear various types of headsets now and it's 
completely
socially and cosmetically acceptible.
And they get the job done.

Sorry if this comes across negative or like I'm bashing the 
product, neither
is the case.  I'm just cautioning those who might be sucked in by 
the promo
stuff into thinking these are an alternative to, or upgrade 
replacement for
standard dynamic headphones.
If I used things like trekker, or my phone's gps, or used a 
portible audio
book reader while travelling allot I would probably have a set of 
these.
Also, I would imagine they are very good on plains and in other 
high noise
environments.  The audio is sort of a direct path into your ear 
bones, so
noise doesn't get in the way or fill up the air between the 
speaker and your
ear canal like with normal headphones on a plain or train or bus 
or
whatever.

73
Colin, V A6BKX