We know the history. We learned it in Seminary. It don't change the facts. 

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> On Jul 27, 2014, at 5:01 AM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> There are different Christian Faiths.  The first separation of the Faiths being in 325 AD When the eastern orthodox and the Roman Churches separated. Then, of course, there was that when Luther and those responsible for the reformation separated from the Roman Church.  The eastern Orthodox,  and the Coptic Christians remained in tact since their founding by Saint Paul and those apostles who founded the Coptic Church.  It is interesting, one of the questions asked the orthodox monk when he was lecturing was:  Whether he believed Each Faith could ever partake of the Eucharist together.  He, of course said:  He didn't believe this would be possible in his lifetime. Because of the different doctrines each held regarding the Eucharist.  Also, there are so many other things about which agreement is not possible, I think.  I doubt we in
> Christendom shall ever be truly a holy catholic church again.  Catholic in the sense of being universal.  I dare say I have learned a good deal about why it is people don't reach out toward other groups to engage them.  It seems those who don't are more centered, and are less concerned with whether they are understood by others.  Such contentment can be seen in the ultra orthodox Jewish sects, and in the Amish communities.  and why it is I am the only Roman Catholic on this list, and perhaps why there aren't more interfaith lists.  The discussion has also caused me, which is a good thing, to become more introspective.  Understanding there are things which will not be understood by those of other Faiths.  Which, I suspect is why those groups I mentioned earlier never even attempt to dialog.  If that were possible, we would be of the same Faith.  Which is why there is still a difference between the Eastern Churches and Rome today.  Though, they are coming closer to each other now than they have in past centuries.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris &Hubby Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Interceeding by the saints:
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>> I do not consider communication between the different  christian churches as "interfaith" but as "interdenominational.  interfaith to me is between different religionssuch as Muslims and Jews or Christians.
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>> Hugs,
>> D
>> oris
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>> At 10:10 PM 7/26/2014, you wrote:
>>> Thank you my good friend.  We must remember you come from Luther's church. I suspect many protestants since have separated further from the church he founded than they would care to admit.  The sad part of this dialog is: Many of the different branches of the Catholic Faiths.  Such as Greek and Russian orthodox feel no dialog is even possible, and they refuse to engage in any.  As they feel our differences outweigh our similarities. While there are those who feel dialog is still possible.  I spent a couple of hours last evening listening to a pod cast where an orthodox monk was invited to lecture at an evangelistic college.  He felt dialog was possible and was important in this modern age in which we live.  He said there were those who have given up this idea of dialog between the Faiths. I am of that mind now.  It is interesting to know the original Macedonian church to which our dear Saint Paul preached still exists in Macedonia, and that since the fall of communism in 20 years the Russian Orthodox Church has grown four fold.  Which gives to us all hope that regardless the godless government which might rule over us, Christianity will survive regardless.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris &Hubby Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 7:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Interceeding by the saints:
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>>> 
>>>> Dear Mr. David,
>>>> 
>>>> Ms. Angel's Bible knowledge is very solid. . I am not catholic and have no intention to convert but understand the idea of asking those who have gone before us for intercession as us being all living in the spirit and thus being united  in what we stand and ask for.. If you think of your dear Ms. April who has gone before you, I think she probably will alway be with you and be a part of you. As the Legacy 5 song goes: They will be with us longer than then we are without"
>>>> 
>>>> in Christian sistership,
>>>> 
>>>> Doris
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>>>> At 05:56 PM 7/26/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> While Jesus was here on earth, He upbraided the scribes and pharisees for substituting their traditions for the WORD OF GOD.  Why do Catholics and others who believe in communicating with the dead and/or that the dead intercede for us think they're better than the religious leaders in the days of Jesus?  The Bible clearly and emphatically in First Timothy chapter 2 verse 5, "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."  1 is 1.  1 is not 2, 5, 17, or even 314,159. The Bible says what it means, and means what it says.  Here is something to think about.  Whoever disagrees with the clear and plain writing in the Bible, could that person be found guilty of fighting with God?  One more thing.  Can some one please explain to me the difference between a mediator and an intercessor?
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>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Angel <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>>>>> In Revelation, mention is made of the vials of prayers presented and opened before God from the saints.  There is no difference between those saints residing on the earth, and those who have passed from this level of existance.
>>>>>> **The nice thing about being a celebrity is that
>>>>>> if you bore people they think it's their fault.**
>>>>>> Henry Kissinger
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