Amen John!

I'm glad you said what you did.


Thanks much.

Many Blessings,

Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.


At 05:03 AM 7/26/2014, you wrote:
>Angel, why not?  Because there is only 1 mediator between God and 
>man, the man,Christ Jesus.  You are giving those who have gone on 
>before us, attributes that only God has.  You are in a dangerous 
>position, breaking the first commandment.  You are putting your own 
>spin on topics, using logic that won't work.
>
>earlier, Angel, wrote:
>>That sort of puts a constraint on just what it is they can do 
>>doesn't it? If the angels, who are constantly praising God, as are 
>>we here on earth without ceasing, and are given time to constantly 
>>serve us as guardian Angels, ministering to our needs.  If we can 
>>be constantly praising God, both waking and sleeping, while we have 
>>jobs and raise families here on earth.  Why can't the saints 
>>intercede for us in heaven, as we who live here in this plane of 
>>existence find time to pray for those on this list who ask for 
>>prayer?  While still praising God.  If we can find time in this 
>>temporal world to pray for those who request it of us, then the 
>>saints, who live in a timeless eternity surely can devote time, 
>>which isn't even an issue for them any longer to pray for 
>>us.  Especially so, because physical constraints such as the needs 
>>presented by the physical body are not issues for them. Constant 
>>praise to God in Heaven is understood, and is assumed by us as a 
>>primary postulate by all the heavenly host, both angels and saints.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: Praying to the dead
>>
>>
>>They can not intercede for you only Jesus can the saints are in 
>>Heaven where you remember the earth know more because you are to 
>>busy praising The Lord read Luke 16.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>When the saints either living or dead intercede for us, we aren't 
>>>praying to them.  Just as I am not praying to you if I were to ask 
>>>for your prayers for me.  If I were wanting your assistance that I 
>>>might endure a difficult time in my life.  Also, as the second 
>>>McCabe's isn't in your cannon, I won't even expect those 
>>>scriptures to cancel out those which you quoted.  As they would be 
>>>dismissed.  I will not engage in an argument regarding something 
>>>without a possible satisfactory resolution for either of 
>>>us.  Prayers aren't offered up to our saints.  In the same sense 
>>>as I suspect was meant by your post. Rather the saints continue to 
>>>exist conjoined with us as does Jesus, and the blessed Theotocos .
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:11 PM
>>>Subject: Praying to the dead
>>>
>>>
>>>A few verses for those who think you can pray to dead ones. Like 
>>>saints or relatives. Isaiah 8:19-20.  19. When someone tells you 
>>>to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should 
>>>not a people inquire of their God?  Why consult the dead on behalf 
>>>of the living.  20. Consult God's instruction and the testimony of 
>>>warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they 
>>>have no light of dawn.
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPhone=