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john schwery <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 26 Jul 2014 06:03:52 -0400
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Angel, why not?  Because there is only 1 mediator between God and 
man, the man,Christ Jesus.  You are giving those who have gone on 
before us, attributes that only God has.  You are in a dangerous 
position, breaking the first commandment.  You are putting your own 
spin on topics, using logic that won't work.

earlier, Angel, wrote:
>That sort of puts a constraint on just what it is they can do 
>doesn't it? If the angels, who are constantly praising God, as are 
>we here on earth without ceasing, and are given time to constantly 
>serve us as guardian Angels, ministering to our needs.  If we can be 
>constantly praising God, both waking and sleeping, while we have 
>jobs and raise families here on earth.  Why can't the saints 
>intercede for us in heaven, as we who live here in this plane of 
>existence find time to pray for those on this list who ask for 
>prayer?  While still praising God.  If we can find time in this 
>temporal world to pray for those who request it of us, then the 
>saints, who live in a timeless eternity surely can devote time, 
>which isn't even an issue for them any longer to pray for 
>us.  Especially so, because physical constraints such as the needs 
>presented by the physical body are not issues for them. Constant 
>praise to God in Heaven is understood, and is assumed by us as a 
>primary postulate by all the heavenly host, both angels and saints.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:38 AM
>Subject: Re: Praying to the dead
>
>
>They can not intercede for you only Jesus can the saints are in 
>Heaven where you remember the earth know more because you are to 
>busy praising The Lord read Luke 16.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>>On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>When the saints either living or dead intercede for us, we aren't 
>>praying to them.  Just as I am not praying to you if I were to ask 
>>for your prayers for me.  If I were wanting your assistance that I 
>>might endure a difficult time in my life.  Also, as the second 
>>McCabe's isn't in your cannon, I won't even expect those scriptures 
>>to cancel out those which you quoted.  As they would be 
>>dismissed.  I will not engage in an argument regarding something 
>>without a possible satisfactory resolution for either of 
>>us.  Prayers aren't offered up to our saints.  In the same sense as 
>>I suspect was meant by your post. Rather the saints continue to 
>>exist conjoined with us as does Jesus, and the blessed Theotocos .
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:11 PM
>>Subject: Praying to the dead
>>
>>
>>A few verses for those who think you can pray to dead ones. Like 
>>saints or relatives. Isaiah 8:19-20.  19. When someone tells you to 
>>consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not 
>>a people inquire of their God?  Why consult the dead on behalf of 
>>the living.  20. Consult God's instruction and the testimony of 
>>warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have 
>>no light of dawn.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone=

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