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That sort of puts a constraint on just what it is they can do doesn't it? 
If the angels, who are constantly praising God, as are we here on earth 
without ceasing, and are given time to constantly serve us as guardian 
Angels, ministering to our needs.  If we can be constantly praising God, 
both waking and sleeping, while we have jobs and raise families here on 
earth.  Why can't the saints intercede for us in heaven, as we who live here 
in this plane of existence find time to pray for those on this list who ask 
for prayer?  While still praising God.  If we can find time in this temporal 
world to pray for those who request it of us, then the saints, who live in a 
timeless eternity surely can devote time, which isn't even an issue for them 
any longer to pray for us.  Especially so, because physical constraints such 
as the needs presented by the physical body are not issues for them. 
Constant praise to God in Heaven is understood, and is assumed by us as a 
primary postulate by all the heavenly host, both angels and saints.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: Praying to the dead


They can not intercede for you only Jesus can the saints are in Heaven where 
you remember the earth know more because you are to busy praising The Lord 
read Luke 16.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> When the saints either living or dead intercede for us, we aren't praying 
> to them.  Just as I am not praying to you if I were to ask for your 
> prayers for me.  If I were wanting your assistance that I might endure a 
> difficult time in my life.  Also, as the second McCabe's isn't in your 
> cannon, I won't even expect those scriptures to cancel out those which you 
> quoted.  As they would be dismissed.  I will not engage in an argument 
> regarding something without a possible satisfactory resolution for either 
> of us.  Prayers aren't offered up to our saints.  In the same sense as I 
> suspect was meant by your post. Rather the saints continue to exist 
> conjoined with us as does Jesus, and the blessed Theotocos .
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:11 PM
> Subject: Praying to the dead
>
>
> A few verses for those who think you can pray to dead ones. Like saints or 
> relatives. Isaiah 8:19-20.  19. When someone tells you to consult mediums 
> and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of 
> their God?  Why consult the dead on behalf of the living.  20. Consult 
> God's instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak 
> according to this word, they have no light of dawn.
>
> Sent from my iPhone= 

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