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Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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I say this because I am not ins laced ritual or thinking good works. I also praise God I am not a drunk which is ins lavers to the drink. I praise him for all things good and bad. Like the Bible says to. God doesn't care about denominationalritual catholic or other. There are very god fearing Jesus loving Catholics. Jesus sees what's in the heart. And know when I get to mHeaven, only by his grace, that I will have something's to a seer for. And by His grace He will say. Enter in to the joy of my Father. 

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> On Jul 25, 2014, at 5:48 AM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> I thank you for your post,.  Because it has assisted me to codify my thoughts this night.  You were so thoughtful to post it.   One ought to be praising God for so many far better things.  Again in my opinion.  I don't praise God I am not of another religion.  I just thank the good God he permits me to be alive, and on this earth each day.  To enjoy his goodness and abundance.  When I could well have not been born at all.  God is so marvelous a being to have even wanted to send his son to give his dear and precious sweet innocent life that I might not have to risk separation from him.  Why should I praise Him for not being something I am not I ask as do you. Each breath I take is a miracle in itself.  Because none knows when one will breathe his last.  Again, why should anyone feel compelled to praise God for not being something.  When there are so many other things to praise and for which to be thankful.  You are fortunate to have a belief in which you feel comforted and strengthened.  I thank God he brought you to the understanding of that belief.  I trust, and feel sure, he will buoy you up, and shall strengthen you,  throughout your trials and any life difficulties in which you find yourself.  Because, he has been a constant help and a bulwark for me.  There are no words to tell you of all for which I, and I am sure you as well, have to thank him for.  I don't even stop to think of what I am not.  It is Gods will we experience his goodness as far as our infinite minds can grasp.  Which is so enormous the universe itself is unable to contain it.  I know how important the feeling of immense peace is afforded those whose trust is placed in him.  I haven't time to consider all the things which I am not, or which I don't have.  Even should the good and merciful God take all from me he has given to me, I would have enormous impertinence to question his decision to do so.  All I would do would be to ask him for the strength and the grace and patience possessed by Job.  Who was tested beyond belief.  I would perhaps fall short of the mark.  As I have done so often in the past.  God knows how often I do fall short of the mark.  But, I can pray I will be grateful for my lacks as well as my abundances.  Which I am now afforded.  After all, I have a sound mind, and body.  With which to serve the grand and marvelous God.  What do I lack.
> When I deserve nothing but what
> God sees fit to allow me.  God knows all  the things I don't have, or am not, and gives to me according to his desire.  I love my Faith.  Which is why I sought to have as full an understanding of its intricacies as I could. God opens to me new vistas each day regarding it.  I am fortunate to be allowed to serve him as a Catholic.  I am fortunate to be allowed to serve him in any capacity at all.  How fortunate we all are to be given such a grand and a marvelous chance.
> When we might not have ever had such an opportunity.  If we were born in another time and place.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Just read the book
> 
> 
> I praise God I was confirm and am not catholic.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Pat Ferguson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh Phil! You are definitely not a Liar! Not one bit!
>> 
>> You are a s honest as ever!
>> 
>> I'm personally glad I left the Catholic Church.
>> 
>> Many of the beliefs of The Catholic Church are not Biblically accurate.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Many Blessings,
>> 
>> Pat Ferguson
>> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
>> 
>> At 07:12 PM 7/24/2014, you wrote:
>>> Angel,
>>> 
>>> So, since we don't agree on doctrinal positions and interpretation of some Scriptures, am I a liar because it doesn't follow the interpretation of the Catholic church or you?
>>> 
>>> Phil.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I will not read the book.  For the reasons I previously stated.  Many in this world have different beliefs than do I about all sorts of things from . John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to Joseph Smith.  All claiming to base their beliefs on scriptural accuracy.  Each of whom have flawed reasoning, in my opinion.  Of course you are free, as you have done, to disagree with me on everything.  That is your right. About which I wouldn't gainsay you. I dare say, I need not have to know about the experiences of others regarding either heaven or hell.  I
>>>> Shall be having my own experiences in good time.  So why should I care to read about those of others?  When such are so personal, and can be so easily contrived by others to make a dollar or million.    -----  Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Just read the book
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Angel,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used in the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and theology. But you aren't going to do that, are you?  You are going to keep running down everyone else who has read it as being gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called Bible believers.  I still say you are just simply afraid to read it because you would rather believe in a belief system than in Scripture itself even when Scripture is clearly experienced by a Bible believer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phil.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just can't understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly are with us on earth watching over us with our personal angels.  They being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so easily accept something they read from a book shelf.  Almost as if it were gospel itself?  It seems to me, protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from almost anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are almost as bad as those who believe the shroud of Turin is real.  When Saint Paul didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he would have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there.  If he saw him. Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven.  Why should I believe any modern recounts of heavenly experiences.  When, in order for A Saint to be canonized, two miracles must be verified as having been done by that Saint.  It is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in whom I put my trust concerning heavenly accounts.  I ask, what is the litmus test to which you all have put this recounting from this young man whom no one on the list knows personally? Now I am not saying the experiences themselves aren't real experiences.  I am just saying why I don't believe they should be taken at face value. Only God knows whether those experiences weren't hallucinations.  My late husband suffered from a load of those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>>>>>>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>>>> compassion.
>>>>>>> Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>>>>>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant  to encourage us.
>>>>>>> I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>>>>>>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>>>>> people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>>>>>>> We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>>>>>>> experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book and
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>>>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by Scripture
>>>>>>>> from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some of your most
>>>>>>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Phil.
>>> 
>>> Thanks much.
>>> 
>>> Many Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Pat Ferguson
>>> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13. 

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