Angel, traditions are find as long as they don't conflict the Word of 
God.  Most traditions that protestants hold that I know of are not 
important and are things the Word of
god does not specify.

earlier, Angel, wrote:
>All protestants hold to some tradition.  Which traditions hold the 
>dominations together.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "john schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Praying to the dead
>
>
>>Just more long-winded logic to support Catholic tradition.
>>
>>earlier, Angel, wrote:
>>>Jesus is the only mediator for all mankind.  Which is meant by the 
>>>word men. In the same sense as man was created in the form of 
>>>Adam.  To seal the terms of the new Covenant.   (first timothy 2 
>>>verses 1 through 6 makes this clear if read in context.)Saint 
>>>Paul, in this passage commands us all to do just what we are 
>>>doing.  We are interceding.  This is what the saints who are 
>>>always alive in Christ, and are conscious in Christ, as are we are 
>>>doing. Too fulfill the exhortation from Saint Paul in his letter 
>>>to dear saint timothy.  You will take note in the same passage, 
>>>where saint Paul maintains Jesus is the mediator between Men and 
>>>God, he doesn't exhort us not to use saints to mediate for us to 
>>>God.  Because Christ is the one and sole mediator.  If he had 
>>>meant that for us individuals, he surely would have made this 
>>>clear in his letter to Timothy.  Whatever we might say concerning 
>>>Saint Paul, ambiguousness was not one vice possessed by 
>>>him.  Else, we on earth could not, and would have no right to 
>>>intercede for each other while we reside on earth to the lord our 
>>>God.  We would have no right to ask anyone for prayer assistance 
>>>at all.  If Christ were truly the only mediator between us and 
>>>God.  The mediation of Christ, and the interceding of the saints 
>>>either visible or invisible are two different concepts.  About 
>>>which there is no confusion at all by saint Paul in this 
>>>passage.  What then is the distinction made, and about which there 
>>>is no confusion?  The distinction is made in first timothy 2 verse 
>>>6 when it makes clear Christ's mediation regards the fact
>>>he ransomed himself for us.  Being the "man" who ransomed himself 
>>>for us "men".  Clearly referring to the sealing with his blood for 
>>>us the terms of the new covenant.  This is also amplified in 
>>>another letter from saint Paul to the Hebrews In Hebrews chapter 9 
>>>verse 15 in this verse saint Paul says Christ is the mediator of a 
>>>new covenant by means of death for the redemption of the 
>>>transgressions of the first covenant.  Also, in Hebrews chapter 12 verse 24.
>>>Where it talks about the mediation of the   new covenant in the 
>>>blood of Christ.  An obvious reference to the death of our Lord as 
>>>it relates to the new covenant. Which proves there is a difference 
>>>between the mediation of Christ, and the interceding all saints 
>>>are commanded to do by saint Paul. Which also makes clearer the 
>>>mediation which belongs to Christ alone is between the whole human 
>>>race and God.  The man who is also the complete God incarnate is 
>>>the only one who can mediate between God and the human race. Made 
>>>manifest by his death and resurrection.  Which paid for our sins. 
>>>Without which, there would be no need for any intercession by any 
>>>saint. Jesus, by his mediation gave to us the privilege to 
>>>intercede at all. Without the sole mediation of Christ, we would 
>>>never be able at all to entreat God for anything at 
>>>all.  Regardless on which plane we reside. Because the entirety of 
>>>the saints compose the body of Christ.  There is no separation of 
>>>the members of the body of Christ.  This is why the great cloud of 
>>>witness is so important.  Because we all are equally members of 
>>>the body of Christ.  The saints can not mediate, as referenced by 
>>>these passages, to reinforce the new covenant.  Jesus did that 
>>>when he ransomed himself for us.  But, we and they can and do 
>>>intercede on our behalf to the lord our God.      ----- Original 
>>>Message ----- From: "john schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:03 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Praying to the dead
>>>
>>>
>>>>Angel, why not?  Because there is only 1 mediator between God and 
>>>>man, the man,Christ Jesus.  You are giving those who have gone on 
>>>>before us, attributes that only God has.  You are in a dangerous 
>>>>position, breaking the first commandment.  You are putting your 
>>>>own spin on topics, using logic that won't work.
>>>>
>>>>earlier, Angel, wrote:
>>>>>That sort of puts a constraint on just what it is they can do 
>>>>>doesn't it? If the angels, who are constantly praising God, as 
>>>>>are we here on earth without ceasing, and are given time to 
>>>>>constantly serve us as guardian Angels, ministering to our 
>>>>>needs.  If we can be constantly praising God, both waking and 
>>>>>sleeping, while we have jobs and raise families here on 
>>>>>earth.  Why can't the saints intercede for us in heaven, as we 
>>>>>who live here in this plane of existence find time to pray for 
>>>>>those on this list who ask for prayer?  While still praising 
>>>>>God. If we can find time in this temporal world to pray for 
>>>>>those who request it of us, then the saints, who live in a 
>>>>>timeless eternity surely can devote time, which isn't even an 
>>>>>issue for them any longer to pray for us.  Especially so, 
>>>>>because physical constraints such as the needs presented by the 
>>>>>physical body are not issues for them. Constant praise to God in 
>>>>>Heaven is understood, and is assumed by us as a primary 
>>>>>postulate by all the heavenly host, both angels and saints.
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:38 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Praying to the dead
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>They can not intercede for you only Jesus can the saints are in 
>>>>>Heaven where you remember the earth know more because you are to 
>>>>>busy praising The Lord read Luke 16.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When the saints either living or dead intercede for us, we 
>>>>>>aren't praying to them.  Just as I am not praying to you if I 
>>>>>>were to ask for your prayers for me.  If I were wanting your 
>>>>>>assistance that I might endure a difficult time in my 
>>>>>>life.  Also, as the second McCabe's isn't in your cannon, I 
>>>>>>won't even expect those scriptures to cancel out those which 
>>>>>>you quoted.  As they would be dismissed.  I will not engage in 
>>>>>>an argument regarding something without a possible satisfactory 
>>>>>>resolution for either of us.  Prayers aren't offered up to our 
>>>>>>saints. In the same sense as I suspect was meant by your post. 
>>>>>>Rather the saints continue to exist conjoined with us as does 
>>>>>>Jesus, and the blessed Theotocos .
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:11 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Praying to the dead
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A few verses for those who think you can pray to dead ones. 
>>>>>>Like saints or relatives. Isaiah 8:19-20.  19. When someone 
>>>>>>tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and 
>>>>>>mutter, should not a people inquire of their God?  Why consult 
>>>>>>the dead on behalf of the living. 20. Consult God's instruction 
>>>>>>and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak 
>>>>>>according to this word, they have no light of dawn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sent from my iPhone=