Which faith? That which comes from your church or my church; your words are
confusing and God doesn't bring confusion.
Phil.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Just read the book
> Though we each are Christian, we do not share the same Faith. Which is
> probably appreciated by us both.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>
>
>> Which faith would that be; yours or mine?
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>
>>
>>>I am not free to interpret scripture. My Faith forbids private
>>>interpretation of scripture. I never said you are a liar. I am not free
>>>to judge that either. As our Lord forbids such judgments. I am free,
>>>however, not to believe what you believe, and you are free to do the same
>>>regarding me and my beliefs. If we each believed the same things we
>>>would be of the same Faith.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>>
>>>
>>>> Angel,
>>>>
>>>> So, since we don't agree on doctrinal positions and interpretation of
>>>> some Scriptures, am I a liar because it doesn't follow the
>>>> interpretation of the Catholic church or you?
>>>>
>>>> Phil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I will not read the book. For the reasons I previously stated. Many
>>>>>in this world have different beliefs than do I about all sorts of
>>>>>things from . John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to Joseph Smith.
>>>>>All claiming to base their beliefs on scriptural accuracy. Each of
>>>>>whom have flawed reasoning, in my opinion. Of course you are free, as
>>>>>you have done, to disagree with me on everything. That is your right.
>>>>>About which I wouldn't gainsay you. I dare say, I need not have to know
>>>>>about the experiences of others regarding either heaven or hell. I
>>>>> Shall be having my own experiences in good time. So why should I care
>>>>> to read about those of others? When such are so personal, and can be
>>>>> so easily contrived by others to make a dollar or million. -----
>>>>> Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: Just read the book
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Angel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used in
>>>>>> the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are
>>>>>> superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and theology.
>>>>>> But you aren't going to do that, are you? You are going to keep
>>>>>> running down everyone else who has read it as being gullible, easily
>>>>>> fooled and misguided, so called Bible believers. I still say you are
>>>>>> just simply afraid to read it because you would rather believe in a
>>>>>> belief system than in Scripture itself even when Scripture is clearly
>>>>>> experienced by a Bible believer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>>>>> boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am not angry,, I apologize if it seems that I am,. I just can't
>>>>>>>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to
>>>>>>>believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints
>>>>>>>are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly
>>>>>>>are with us on earth watching over us with our personal angels. They
>>>>>>>being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so
>>>>>>>easily accept something they read from a book shelf. Almost as if it
>>>>>>>were gospel itself? It seems to me, protestants will bee almost
>>>>>>>willing to believe anything from almost anyone who claims it to be
>>>>>>>true. Some are almost as bad as those who believe the shroud of
>>>>>>>Turin is real. When Saint Paul didn't even recount what he saw in
>>>>>>>heaven, and don't you think he would have at least raved about how he
>>>>>>>saw Saint Steven there. If he saw him. Because, we know he suffered
>>>>>>>from the guilt over the part he played in his martyrdom, if he saw
>>>>>>>him in heaven. Why should I believe any modern recounts of heavenly
>>>>>>>experiences. When, in order for A Saint to be canonized, two
>>>>>>>miracles must be verified as having been done by that Saint. It is
>>>>>>>those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in whom I put my
>>>>>>>trust concerning heavenly accounts. I ask, what is the litmus test
>>>>>>>to which you all have put this recounting from this young man whom no
>>>>>>>one on the list knows personally? Now I am not saying the experiences
>>>>>>>themselves aren't real experiences. I am just saying why I don't
>>>>>>>believe they should be taken at face value. Only God knows whether
>>>>>>>those experiences weren't hallucinations. My late husband suffered
>>>>>>>from a load of those. Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I
>>>>>>>know what they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>>>>>> boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too. My first reaction
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>>>>> compassion.
>>>>>>>> Any book that talks about miracles should be weighed against
>>>>>>>> scripture,
>>>>>>>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant to
>>>>>>>> encourage us.
>>>>>>>> I haven't walked on water, or raised the dead, but God has saved
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have
>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>> people to salvation, which is what really matters.
>>>>>>>> We'll know the book by it's fruit. Angel, I'm sorry you seem so
>>>>>>>> angry.
>>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this
>>>>>>>>> miraculous
>>>>>>>>> experience. I get the feeling you don't want to read this little
>>>>>>>>> book and
>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering why. Why do you want to argue what you believe when
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by
>>>>>>>>> Scripture
>>>>>>>>> from beginning to end. Are you worried it might challenge some of
>>>>>>>>> your most
>>>>>>>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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