Before this gets even uglier lets all take a deep breath, count to
ten and enjoy the apsects of the hobby that we like. There are lots
of things to like and the parts that don't interest you, ignore
them. And the amateurs who like the stuff you disdain are no more or
less hams than are you.
Pat, K9JAUAt 08:36 PM 5/1/2013, you wrote:
>oh my god what a prick.. there are a lot of people who an not put up =
>antennas, are in nursing homes or hospitals and the like, and who the =
>fuck ar eyou to say they shouldn't use irlp or echo link. I can't call =
>the simulator real radio, but rip and echo link are real radio. in fact =
>irlp is by design radio to radio only. Perhaps someone should make t =
>impossible for you to have antennas or god forbid care for yourself. =
>should you be forced to not enjoy what may be the only hobby left to =
>you? =20
> I hope you never have to find out what it is like to not be able to =
>have antennas. You are also being short sighted and foolish to also =
>toss 2 meters in as not real radio. there are many aspects that are =
>incredibly technical and challenging on 2m such as satellite =
>communications weak signal work and public service activities. so =
>before eyou open your mouth and insert both feet and your boat anchor =
>think first or just go away
>
>On May 1, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Brian Sackrider <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi this isBrian Sackrider n8mnx and you need to rembember that lots of=20=
>
> > people live in places with very restrictive antenna restrictions I =
>live in=20
> > an apartment am I very limited on what antennas that will fit on my =
>balcony=20
> > and I use the cq100 program on my computer this is a vertual hf radio =
>no=20
> > it's real hf radio but it's all that some of us have you are required =
>to=20
> > send prove of your licence to by a membership on cq100. there is a 90 =
>day=20
> > free trial and then it cost 39 dollars per year. there people on it =
>that=20
> > are in nursing homes and in hhospitals and they can still can =
>communicate=20
> > and on the issue of echo link and irlp they are 2 other modes that =
>people=20
> > with antenna restrictions can still operate so it's always that people =
>are=20
> > to lazy to putup antenas please think and get your facts before you =
>judge=20
> > put yourself in our place I got my licence to communicate
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----=20
> > From: John Miller
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:25 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: 47 years as a ham
> >=20
> > When *I* pick up the phone, it generally is a complete waste of time =
>but
> > that's beside the point. I didn't get a radio license to talk =
>on the=20
> > phone
> > or the internet, that's not radio and I'd be flat out embarrassed to =
>brag
> > about my last phone call to NY or skype call to TN or where ever it =
>was all
> > those months ago and I certainly would never call an internet =
>conversation
> > or phone call DX, accept a card or anything for it. Why anyone would =
>get a
> > radio license just to use the internet is well beyond me but then, =
>that's
> > why I never get on 2 meters, that's all anyone seems to do these days =
>and
> > they're so happy they never have to actually work to make a contact,
> > upgrade, put up antennas or anything. As far as I'm concerned, they
> > shouldn't be any part of radio with that attitude since they don't =
>even know
> > what radio is if they're calling the internet radio.
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: 47 years as a ham
> >=20
> >=20
> >> So john, does that mean if you pick up a telephone you are just =
>wasting
> >> your
> >> time?
> >> How is that different than incorporating the Internet?=20
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