Hi list Seems they have been around slightly longer than I've heard, check out https://www.olitech.com.au/easyflip4g and their other products. Ricky Lomey VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. Archived on the World Wide Web at http://listserv.icors.org/archives/vicug-l.html Signoff: [log in to unmask] Subscribe: [log in to unmask]