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Claude Everett <[log in to unmask]>
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Claude Everett <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:20:35 -0700
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Andy,
  I can't believe that after all this time Microsoft is still violating
section 208, if not the letter if not the  spirit.  You said:  "... when it
comes time to replace that machine, that I will not have to pay extra for
accessibility."
  I will believe it when I see it.
Regards,
Claude Everett
"A corporation is "an ingenious device for obtaining profit without
individual responsibility."  
Ambrose Bierce 
-----Original Message-----
From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] [MARKETING] Re: [VICUG-L] [leadership] FW: Code
Factory Enhances Blind and Visually ImpairedAccessibility for Windows Phone
8

The reason that Apple is still  a minor player in the PC world is that
enterprise is heavily invested in Microsoft, and enterprise is the last to
change. One example is that at my work we are still using Windows XP,
scheduled to migrate to Windows 7 some time in the next 6 months, and how
long has Windows 7 been around?

The one thing that Apple proved, and Google reinforced is that accessibility
can be incorporated into a mainstream product without damaging the bottom
line. From a functional standpoint, it is no longer necessary to bolt on
third party accesibility solutions that cost more than the device that they
make accessible. Microsoft has an accessibility division, and one of the
main reasons that screen readers are as effective as they are, and why they
can be ready to go when a new version of Windows comes out is because of the
groundwork done by Microsoft. Do you remember when it took screen readers
two or three years to catch up to a new version of Windows? Microsoft has
the wherewithall to build accessibility into Windows, and every new version
of narrator is just a little more robust than the last. I bought a new
windows 7 machine last year, and I fully expect that when it comes time to
replace that machine, that I will not have to pay extra for accessibility.

Andy


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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jeff Kenyon
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:25 PM
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Subject: [MARKETING] Re: [VICUG-L] [leadership] FW: Code Factory Enhances
Blind and Visually ImpairedAccessibility for Windows Phone 8

> if Windows narrator is so stripped-down then why even put it on there?
It also goes for the screen and larger program as well. I have to agree with
Harry here. What is coat factory been up to in the last several years that
is going to be very beneficial? I think that what they're doing now is a
little too late. The last time I really heard much from coat factory was
when I got my Cayenne FB reader mobile. Of course, you have to pay
separately for the screen reader. I was delighted to be able to walk into my
local AT&T store and get a phone off the shelf that had a screen reader
built right into it. Now, hopefully that will be the case with other things
that are mainly used in the work world. True, Apple has got what it needs,
but now we have to expand it to what is in use in the business and
government worlds as well. The one thing that is stopping a lot of friends
of mine who are blind from getting computers and doing things is the fact
that they are having to pay for the system twice meant for the computer in
another time from screenreader. That Windows narrator is to


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