No, we're talking about the increased usage of mobile devices, smart
phones and tablets, and how they're cutting into laptop and PC sales,
MS, Linux and Mac. I think the move away from Windows to Mac is another
discussion.

On 22/10/12 17:23, Claude Everett wrote:
> I gather that you all are specifically speaking of just the MSW or the Lenox
> and it's variants, Operating Systems; but what about the switch to MAC that
> is happening? 
> 
> 
> Claude Everett
> "First of all:  what is work? 
> Work is of two kinds:
>   first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface
> relatively to other such matter;
>  second, telling other people to do so.
>   The first kind is unpleasant and ill paid; the second is pleasant and
> highly paid."
> From The collection of essays "In Praise of Idleness" by Bertrand Russell 
>  
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> Its content creation and edition that these smart phones and tablets are not
> sufficient for. The drop in sales does not correspond with the actual use
> ofthe PC. Businesses that have those machines will stay with them for a very
> long time.
> The smart phone is still a hot little sports car. When you got to do major
> shopping, load up the station wagon.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> 
>> I agree that PC and laptop sales are slumping right now. that's 
>> definitely due to competition from tablets and smart phones. It's also 
>> due to the fact that people are waiting on Windows 8. Let's also not 
>> confuse the fact that PC and laptop sales aren't what they were this 
>> time a year ago to PC's and laptops aren't selling at all. The market 
>> will be shifting over time, and you won't have as many laptops and 
>> PC's being sold, but that doesn't mean they're going away and it 
>> doesn't mean that companies won't be making money selling them.
>>
>> As I've said before, smart phones and tablets are great for content 
>> consumption, but they aren't ideal for content creation. I know you 
>> can attach a keyboard to a smart phone and I know you can hook up a 
>> large display to a smart phone, but if you spend over 8 hours a day 
>> working on spread sheets, desktop publishing, web content, programming 
>> and so on, why would you do that on a less powered smart phone or 
>> tablet when you could do that on a laptop or PC with more local 
>> storage, a faster multi-core processor and multiple display support? 
>> There are also the hard core gamers, and I don't see them putting up 
>> with the performance of your typical smart phone or tablet.
>>
>> I agree that smart phones and tablets will become more and more 
>> powerful over time, but so will PC's and laptops. There are also these 
>> converged devices, where you get a smart phone or tablet when you're 
>> out and about and a desktop when you drop it into the dock on your 
>> desk. These might be the real competition to laptops.
>>
>> On 22/10/12 15:36, Mike Pietruk wrote:
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> This isn't an all or nothing decision.  Differing types of pcs, 
>>> tablets, phones and all sorts of electronic devices will compete in 
>>> the marketplace with many users opting for several different ones for 
>>> a variety of reasons.
>>> As for XP, no one knows whether April 2014 will end support or not; 
>>> the marketplace will determine that.
>>> If there remains a large user base, MSFT may have to continue support 
>>> for yet another cut-off date.
>>> And even if they don't extend the date, that isn't to say that folks 
>>> won't continue using xp.
>>> What kills an operating system is whether or not there are many folks 
>>> using it, whether software and hardware still remain available to do 
>>> what folks they to do, et al.
>>> And if support ends for XP, that says nothing about other 
>>> desktop/laptop operating systems such as Vista, Win 7 and now Win 8.
>>> So I don't expect the demise of desktops and laptops in the near term 
>>> though sales and use may decline in percentage terms with other 
>>> equipment taking a great portion of the share.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The real measure of our wealth is how much we should be worth if we lost
> our money.
>>> John Henry Jowett - (1864-1923), English Congregational pastor
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