Well...I'd never tell him to give up on girls in favor of ham radio. I vote
for recruiting more girls and women into the hobby. My wife is a ham and
though she's not an hf fan, she's been involved in emergency services comms
and other aspects of the hobby. She's also been the one to splurge on ham
equipment for my birthdays when I would not have budgeted them in, my
IC-703+, portable antenna and Eton E1 receiver are examples of this
coolness.

So, if we had more yl hams, we could keep licensed teens and young adult men
involved in the hobby when they do discover girls and get driver's licenses.
The only problem may arise when the both the guy and gal like hf and get
into a fight over who gets to work the rare dx while they're driving to/from
a date night.

Ron Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Doug and Sheilla Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 10:54 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Listening to stations far away: was RE: Baseball on the Radio
Part 3

As I see it, getting young people to get their license isn't so much the
problem. It's keepingthem interested after passing the test, which they do
without a problem. We have a fella in our club who got his license at age
15. All he did was hang out in his room, play with his computer and talk on
his repeater with his h t. Several guys gave him rigs, antennas, coax, the
whole bit. Because he's so computer smart, the repeater trustee gave him the
manual for our rc210 controler so he could do things with it the trustee
couldn't figure out for the life of him. Well, a year later, he turned 16. 
He got his driver's license and he discovered "girls". After graduating from
high school, he started attending junior college. Today, he's hardly ever on
the air, even though he's got a mobile in his ride. I mean it. When he was
hanging out in his bedroom, you couldn't shut him up! The car and the girls
have caused him to shut up on his own. It's keeping them interested that's
the real challenge. 73. Doug, N6NFF

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Forst
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 5:39 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Listening to stations far away: was RE: Baseball on the Radio
Part 3

Well, I hope the hobby is around as long as I am.  After that who cares?
   Things do change in this world, and sometimes drastically.  I'm sure at
one time the stagecoach drivers union bemoaned the fact that they weren't
getting any new blood and that there world was coming to an end.
  We see how that worked out.

Good luck with the projects to get some new people involved.

73, Steve KW3A

On 11/5/2013 8:05 AM, Tom Behler wrote:
>      This is a problem that we are currently dealing with in our local 
> club.
>
> As a solution, we are beginning to actively consider the possibility 
> of starting a ham radio club in one of our local schools, as well as 
> at the University where I teach.
>
> We also regularly offer ham-in-a-day classes.  However,, just offering 
> the classes and getting new licensed hams is only half the battle.  We 
> struggle with keeping in touch with those who get their licenses and 
> move onto other things.
>
> I guess what I'm saying here is that this is a problem we all must 
> face, and creativity could get us the ultimate solutions we need to 
> keep things going.
>
> Time will tell, I guess.
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 10:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Listening to stations far away: was RE: Baseball on the 
> Radio Part 3
>
>
>> HI all,
>> I would like to hope that ham radio is around for a long time to 
>> come, but I wonder if it will. We, as a whole, seem to be pretty bad 
>> at bringing in new hams. The median age of hams keeps going up as we 
>> all age. I was a newbie to the hobby in 1985. Now, I'm a newly turned 
>> 50 year old and more than a candidate for the Quarter Century 
>> Wireless Association. How are we bringing in young people in the 
>> necessary numbers to keep the hobby going for another
>> 50 years?
>>
>> I'm feeling rather pessimistic about this, though I do very much like 
>> the hobby and radio monitoring as well.
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>> Ron Miller
>> N6MSA
>> Dunedin, FL USA
>> SKYPE Arjay1
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 8:18 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Listening to stations far away: was RE: Baseball on the 
>> Radio Part 3
>>
>> Kevin:
>>
>> I think what you describe here is part of the reason a lot of us 
>> continue to be involved in amateur radio.
>>
>> Sure the internet and smart phones are amazing, and have their uses 
>> and benefits.
>>
>> But, I think what sustains us is the ability to do what we do, using 
>> the knowledge we have, with our own personally-designed station set-ups.
>> There
>> simply is a real sense of accomplishment in that.
>>
>> I think this, too, is why ham radio will always continue.  It works 
>> when all else fails, and allows us to have fun with a great hobby and 
>> serve society as well.
>>
>> It always amazes me, for example, how so many people say that CW is a 
>> lost art that is going by the way-side.  All you have to do to dampen 
>> that argument is go on the bottom of the HF bands on many contest 
>> week-ends, and you'll hear more CW crammed into the CW portions of 
>> the bands than you ever thought possible.
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kevin Minor" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:14 AM
>> Subject: Listening to stations far away: was RE: Baseball on the 
>> Radio Part
>> 3
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I changed the subject to better fit what we're talking about.  I 
>>> think what we as ham operators enjoy about far off AM stations is 
>>> the same reason why we put up antennas for HF to get that rare DX 
>>> contact.  For me, it was realizing that I was actually hearing a 
>>> transmitted signal from that distant location direct, point to 
>>> point.  It's true that we have things like EchoLink and our smart 
>>> phones, but these rely on a network of relaying points to get to us 
>>> with that crystal clear signal.  Presently I don't have HF, except 
>>> what I could get on my TH-F6A.  I hope to be able to get back on HF 
>>> soon, and experience the excitement of getting that rare DX.  I 
>>> remember my Novice days, back when you could only use CW on four HF 
>>> bands.  I was in high school, and I well remember getting up at five 
>>> in the morning to work west coast stations on 40 meters.  I lived 
>>> near Cincinnati, Ohio back then, and I had a blast!  Technology has 
>>> sure changed in the 31 years since I've been licensed, and I wonder 
>>> if the public understands that we hams pioneered a lot of it.
>>>
>>> Have a good night, and don't work too hard.
>>>
>>> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>
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