the male voice is bolder, er, fort collins colorado, and the female voice is 
honalulu hawaii.
I'm not sure of the technical bit, but they carry two modulated signals on 
the carrier...so you will often hear some phasing going on between state 
side and hawaii on the time signature...you know the ticking clock sound. 
They will sometimes get a little out of sink due to phasing or multi-pathing 
or something.  But you listen for the male and female voice and you can 
determine which is stronger by ear.
Someone can explain how they manage to put both cariers on the same 
frequency without experiencing hetrodyne.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: Propagation


> How do you know which wwv you ar ehearing?
>
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2013, Colin
> McDonald wrote:
>
>> I check 20MHZ as well.
>> WWVH on 20MHZ will often give you an idea if there is propigation to the
>> pacific and further west on 15 meters..  If you got a beam for 40M, which 
>> I
>> know you don't anymore phil, you can also check long path using WWVH on
>> 10MHZ for propigation on 40M.
>> If 20MHZ is coming in strong for me, usually 12 and 10 meters are active 
>> as
>> well.
>> Up here I hear bolder on 2.5 at night, bolder all the time and 
>> occasionally
>> hawaii on 5 almost anytime of day, bolder and hawaii on 10 most of the 
>> time,
>> bolder and hawaii both on 15 24 hours a day, and bolder during the day, 
>> and
>> hawaii less often on 20MHZ when propigation is good.
>> 20MHZ isn't always very strong, but a few days ago it was 10 over S9 
>> which
>> is about as strong as WWV or WWVH ever gets here.
>> I can pickup WWV bolder 15MHZ on the th f6a using the rubber duck antenna 
>> in
>> my house lol.
>> I can hear it in the basement on the rubber duck on good days.
>> 0 land is always a pipe line for us.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:29 PM
>> Subject: Propagation
>>
>>
>>> I due a lot of band checks at all times of the day and night.  Well, =
>>> when I am awake, that is.  The other night, I checked 15 MHz to see what 
>>> =
>>> WWVH was doing compared to Boulder.  I can copy WWV in Boulder on 15 MHz 
>>> =
>>> but it isn't very loud.  The big signals for me, being so close, are 2.5 
>>> =
>>> and 5 MHz.  Anyhow, WWVH was 30 over S9 using my G5RV wire on 15 megs at 
>>> =
>>> 9 PM at night mountain time.  I haven't heard it that strong at 9:15 PM 
>>> =
>>> mountain time on a wire for a super long time.  5 MHz was 30 over and =
>>> 2.5 was running a solid 20 over s9 so conditions were great.  I have =
>>> been listening to the Europeans on 20 meters every night at 10 PM coming 
>>> =
>>> in with good signals and VK ZL stations, too later in the evening on 20. 
>>> =
>>> So there is lots to work on 20 during late evenings and maybe all =
>>> night.  I go to bed about midnight and sleep late so I don't know what =
>>> 20 is like after midnight.  When I had my 2 element yagi at 70 feet, I =
>>> heard WWVH in Hawaii on 5 MHz sometimes 40 and 50 over night in the 5 to 
>>> =
>>> 7 A M window.  I heard W1AW many times on all bands.  I program their =
>>> frequencies for each band into my QSY ER and then run the list.  I've =
>>> copied W1AW on 1.8 MHZ many times, not very loud, of course, and maybe =
>>> once nearly a Q5 copy but W1AW, when transmitting late into the evening, 
>>> =
>>> is often over S9 on 17 meters.  So, when you think the band is closed, =
>>> call CQ anyway.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>> K0NX
>>
>>