It's crazy, if you have anything that resembles a decent antenna, mobile or
base, chances are more often than not you're going to hear 2 repeaters on
the same frequency. I don't know why they coordinate them so close, often
there is interference that doesn't get resolved but we won't go there. Let's
just say if it involves a CT repeater, there's no point fighting it. I'm
glad mine is on 900 MHz, I don't anticipate having that problem there though
with the growth of the band around here, I'm not going to 100% rule it out
either someday.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
> your also in probably one of the most heavily populated amateur radio use
> areas of the world.
> Even when I was at the seeing eye in NJ, I couldn't believe how many
> overlapping coverage repeaters were on the same frequencies. RX tone just
> makes sense in those kinds of conditions.
> I couldn't believe how many people were on 80 and 75M at night
> either...there were groups every 5KC's right across the band.
> In my region we have about 2 main frequencies and perhaps 30 different
> regular operators on 80M.
> Then again, the tri state area has a larger population than the entire
> country of Canada. Add in some of the other eastern seaboard states with
> massive populations in when there is a band opening, and i can imagine how
> it would get kaotic without rx tones on your radios.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>
>
>>I run a receive tone here because every time the band opens up, we have
>> repeaters in other states that keep the receiver open for hours on end
>> and
>> I
>> don't want to hear other repeaters, in fact on one repeater I monitor, we
>> can hear a repeater in CT regardless if the band is open or not. I only
>> monitor the repeaters for clubs I belong to and really am against the
>> practice of making 5 repeaters useless on a frequency so you can get in
>> to
>> one far away when there's a band opening,that's where simplex is good
>> enough
>> but I don't like VHF anyway which is where we have that problem, that's
>> one
>> of the reasons why. There are many people around here who do that
>> regularly.
>> I consider that maliciously interfering with the repeaters that people
>> can't
>> use because of someone doing that. I love tone squelch, receive tone,
>> whatever you want to call it for that reason. I can only hear what I want
>> to
>> hear. Some people love it, some are against it, I set it everywhere I can
>> in
>> all my radios.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>
>>
>>> most newer dual band type ham rigs will do split tone as well.
>>> They do split tone in commercial applications to create multiple user
>>> groups
>>> on one repeater pair.
>>> Personally, I never ever use RX tone for allot of reasons.
>>> Unfortunately, some newer hams don't fully understand the concept and
>>> stick
>>> rx tones in their radios...then can't figure out why they can't hear
>>> anything when the tone is wrong, or when the tone board on the repeater
>>> goes
>>> dead.
>>> Or, with some repeaters, there is only an input tone, and the repeater
>>> doesn't transmit a tone, but when some of these guys program their
>>> radios,
>>> they put a tone on both tx and rx and then can't hear the repeater.
>>> Anyway, leaving the rx tone off is always a good idea.
>>> The only time it's useful is if you are in a very noisy RF environment
>>> where
>>> you get allot of interference or noise on your receiver...the rx tone
>>> will
>>> block most of that and allow you to listen in piece most of the time.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>>
>>>
>>>> PL and CTCSS is exactly the same thing, what you're talking about is
>>>> something else but that doesn't make sense at all. If you need a split
>>>> tone,
>>>> in other words different from receive to transmit, set the transmit
>>>> tone
>>>> and
>>>> leave receive tone off, you'd be out of luck and that would be crazy
>>>> since
>>>> only commercial radios do that as far as I know though I did trick a
>>>> ham
>>>> radio to do it once. Anyway, as long as the tone is the same for in and
>>>> out,
>>>> when you turn on tone squelch, so you need a tone to receive the
>>>> repeater,
>>>> it will transmit that same tone when you transmit so you have the tone
>>>> set
>>>> for receive and transmit that way.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bob Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> PL tones are the tones going into the repeater. CTCSS are those
>>>>> transmitted
>>>>> by it. That is the best explanation I can come up with that makes
>>>>> sense
>>>>> to
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Lou Kolb
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:32 PM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought they were the same. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you
>>>>> mean
>>>>> by
>>>>> ctcss and Pl tones, but I thought both those terms refered to a tone
>>>>> that's
>>>>> transmitted continuously as long as the transmitter is up to hold the
>>>>> squelch open on the receiving end. I'm sure someone will correct me
>>>>> if
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> wrong. 73, Lou Lou Kolb Voice-over Artist:
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>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bob Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone that has experience with the 480 on fm repeaters may be able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> help with this. We have just added tones to our local repeater. The
>>>>>> 480 manual, if I am reading it right, doesn't allow you to have a pl
>>>>>> tone and a CTCSS tone at the same time. Does anyone have a work
>>>>>> around for this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob kd0br
>>>>>
>>>
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