Just what I thought.  Thanks Colin.
Lou Kolb
Voice-over Artist:
Radio/TV Ads, Video narrations
Messages On-hold:
www.loukolb.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation


> tx and rx tones are precisely the same tones...IE, 100HZ is 100HZ if it's 
> on
> transmit or receive.
> I think there are about 38 standardized tones in common usage.
> And regardless of what they are called, they are all the same.
> weather you are using a yaesu, kenwood, icom, alinco, baofeng, wouxun,
> motorola, GE, standard, vertex, whatever under the sun, 110.9 is still 
> 110.9
> no matter what it's refered to as.
> It's like any frequency...146.52 is still the same frequency no matter 
> what
> radio you have it on right?
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lou Kolb" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>
>
>> Ok, I do understand that, Bob.  Are the tones the same frequency?  And 
>> are
>> the 2 tones of different natures?  It still seems to me that they're both
>> continuous tones, although they may be different frequencies.  I've never
>> run a repeater and there are several on this list who have so I'm sure
>> you'll get good info.
>> Lou Kolb
>> Voice-over Artist:
>> Radio/TV Ads, Video narrations
>> Messages On-hold:
>> www.loukolb.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bob Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>
>>
>>> Lou, After giving it some thought I do have a better explanation of what
>>> we
>>> are doing.  We have a PL tone on the repeater's receiver  so that the
>>> repeater is only activated by those transmitting that tone.  The 
>>> repeater
>>> in
>>> turn puts out a tone on its transmissions so that only receivers that
>>> have
>>> that CTCSS tone turned on are going to receive the signal.  I hope that
>>> makes more sense than my first explanation did.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Lou Kolb
>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:32 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> I thought they were the same.  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you 
>>> mean
>>> by
>>> ctcss and Pl tones, but I thought both those terms refered to a tone
>>> that's
>>> transmitted continuously as long as the transmitter is up to hold the
>>> squelch open on the receiving end.  I'm sure someone will correct me if
>>> I'm
>>> wrong.  73,  Lou Lou Kolb Voice-over Artist:
>>> Radio/TV Ads, Video narrations
>>> Messages On-hold:
>>> www.loukolb.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bob Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:11 PM
>>> Subject: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyone that has experience with the 480 on fm repeaters may be able to
>>>> help with this.  We have just added tones to our local repeater.  The
>>>> 480 manual, if I am reading it right, doesn't allow you to have a pl
>>>> tone and a CTCSS tone at the same time.  Does anyone have a work
>>>> around for this?
>>>>
>>>> Bob kd0br