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Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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kenwood refers to tx encoding as simply "tone" and to rx decoding as simply 
"ctcss".
That is another way of thinking about it.
There is encoding, and decoding.  Encoding means your transmitting a 
continuous tone, decoding means your radio must receive a continuous tone to 
hear the signal.
Of course, you can also get into tone burst where the radio sends a short 
burst, usually at 1750HZ to open the repeater up.
This is more of a european standard than anorth american standard though.
Again, the 480 being a simplified FM transceiver, only allows for one event 
at a time, either encoding, or decoding, but not both at the same time.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation


> John, That is what we are trying to do. Now my neighbor has a TS2000 and 
> it
> works the way you described it.  With the 480 when you switch to CTCSS it 
> no
> longer transmits the tone.
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>
> PL and CTCSS is exactly the same thing, what you're talking about is
> something else but that doesn't make sense at all. If you need a split 
> tone,
> in other words different from receive to transmit, set the transmit tone 
> and
> leave receive tone off, you'd be out of luck and that would be crazy since
> only commercial radios do that as far as I know though I did trick a ham
> radio to do it once. Anyway, as long as the tone is the same for in and 
> out,
> when you turn on tone squelch, so you need a tone to receive the repeater,
> it will transmit that same tone when you transmit so you have the tone set
> for receive and transmit that way.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>
>
>> PL tones are the tones going into the repeater.  CTCSS are those
>> transmitted by it.  That is the best explanation I can come up with
>> that makes sense to me.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Lou Kolb
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:32 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I thought they were the same.  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you
>> mean by ctcss and Pl tones, but I thought both those terms refered to
>> a tone that's transmitted continuously as long as the transmitter is
>> up to hold the squelch open on the receiving end.  I'm sure someone
>> will correct me if I'm wrong.  73,  Lou Lou Kolb Voice-over Artist:
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:11 PM
>> Subject: TS480/SAT in FM operation
>>
>>
>>> Anyone that has experience with the 480 on fm repeaters may be able
>>> to help with this.  We have just added tones to our local repeater.
>>> The
>>> 480 manual, if I am reading it right, doesn't allow you to have a pl
>>> tone and a CTCSS tone at the same time.  Does anyone have a work
>>> around for this?
>>>
>>> Bob kd0br
>> 

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