I've used lots of RT systems programming software. Accessibility varies, but
usually it's OK. In newer versions they use something called a Grid Control
which is the "spreadsheet-like" interface he mentions. 

Older versions of JAWS are alergic to grid controls. Nvda typically does a
better job with them.  You can always ask your screen reader maker what
gives, because grids are now part of standard windows programming, are
text-based and should be supported by screen access software.

For example in JAWS when you reclass a control with insert-7, Grid control
doesn't even appear on the list. One solution that worked for me with older
versions of JAWS was to simply copy the configuration from Microsoft Access
which uses grid controls to the name of the RT systems software. 

One annoying quirk if you buy their software on the internet is that though
they email you the serial number, if you don't actually burn the software to
a CD and run the installation from the CD it will complain your serial
number is invalid. I've been bitten by this three or four times with
software for various HTS.

--Debee


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Jim 
Gammon
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Rt Systems Software Accessibility

The only RT system software I have used successfully is an old version maybe
15 years old that works great with my VX5R Yaesu.  
I tried a friends RT systems software for his VX7 and it was completely not
accessible using both WindowEyes and Jaws.  I have heard but not tried
anything newer but I think RT Systems says their latest stuff is accessible
maybe with JAWS.  As a result of my experiences with them, I still use a
VX5r and the old software which works fine using either xp  or windows 7.
Jim WA6EKS
 ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Marthouse <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:17:58 -0400
Subject: Rt Systems Software Accessibility

I would like to bring a few things to the attention of folks on this list
who are looking for a speech-friendly no hassle software method of
programming amateur gear.

Rt Systems http://www.rtsystems.com produces a line of software programming
packages for a large variety of amateur radios.  They produce software
packages to program the Kenwood TH-F6A, the Wouxun KG-UV series of
hand-helds, Yaesu, Icom, and loads of others.

As a screenreader user naturally I was concerned with accessibility.  The
software for the TH-F6A can not be used with jfw.  I haven't tested it with
WindowEyes so I can't comment on it's usability there.  The good news is it
works flawlessly with NVDA.

The app is arranged like a giant spread sheet.  You use your up and down
arrows and the tab key to navigate around the settings.  There is a
convenient standard pull-down menu for settings like cut/paste, copy save,
read and write to radio etc.

Another great thing about this package is the system works with all state of
the art machines including Windows8.

The programming cable has a usb connecter so you don't have to worry about
usb to serial adaptors and compatible drivers and other hassles.

I plugged in the supplied usb cable and the computer recognized it right
away.  Then it was a matter of just installing and running the software.  If
you know just a minimum about spread sheets you will have no difficulty with
this app.  I had the system running within 5 minutes of installation.  For
me it was so intuitive that I didn't need to consult the documentation.

The only minor sticking point is if you order the app on cd you must type in
a serial number when you install it.  Access to a set of working eyeballs is
highly recommended for this step.  LOL!  The serial number is on a label on
the envelope in which the cd is shipped.  You can also download the software
after you purchase it on-line.  I'm not sure how the serial number is
handled if you use that purchasing method.

The bottom line is the app works great with the TH-F6A and is accessible
using NVDA.  If their other apps work as well with NVDA this in my opinion
is a very good speech-friendly way to program a wide variety of amateur
gear.

As far as price you will spend about $25 for the software and slightly less
for the cable.  You can get the software separately from the cable as some
radios use a single cable, (example the Kenwood and Wouxun).

I give the app five stars.

I know this sounds like a commercial.  I can assure you that I get nothing
from Rt Systems.  I'm just posting this for those who may be interested and
would benefit from the information.

If anyone has any questions, comments, etc feel free to contact me on or off
list.



Dave Marthouse N2AAM
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