A few years ago my sighted wife and I  were at a concert. At the break the
Men's room line was short and the Ladies line went on for miles. My wife
said this was rediculas and went into the Mens room. When she came out  she
told me  when she went in she announced " Don't worry boys, I will not
laugh". Needless to say
 We had a few drinks before she did this. I love this girl, guess that is
why we have been together for 41 years.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 8:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Blind people and rest rooms

ah yes, the good old gender debate.  You know, relieving ones self has
little to do with sexual activity...I mean sure, there are some different
feddishes, but a washroom, restroom, bathroom whatever you want to call it,
is for the purpose of relieving oneself.  Many countries in the world
figured this out and the facilities are not gender specific.
I see it this way, and I speak from quite a fare bit of experience.  If you
are a guy, take your kids into the mens washroom regardless of their
gender...until such time as they can go by themselves.  If your a woman, the
same holds true.
I've yet to go into a washroom where guys walk around with their rigging
hanging out.
And I'm pretty sure women don't immediately strip naked and perform lude
acts in the washroom such that children would be tramatized or whatever.
It's a real old fashioned and puritanical traddition and concept to separate
mens and womens restrooms.
I know, I'll get all kinds of flack for saying that, but come on, europe
knows this and there isn't men's and women's public washrooms.  There are
public washrooms.
If your too much of a prude or are afraid you'll potentially glimse some
portion of someones anatomy, which for most adults, is nothing they ain't
seen before, then I suppose you might require a facility that is gender
specific.  You would also probably allow some stranger to take your child
into a restroom just so you don't have to offend the gender police.
not pointing fingers, I've just seen that too often.
I mistakenly used the women's washroom at the university I returned to after
a couple years of being absent.  They had, while I was gone, switched the
men's and women's washrooms around, but being there at night, there was very
seldom anyone to let me know this.  The only time anyone else came in, was
while I was already inside the cubical.
this went on for 6 months until one night a cleaning lady happened to see me
heading for the washroom entrance and let me know, in quite a panicked
manner, that it was the ladies hahahaha...oh well, shit happens right lol.
I always wondered why there was 8 stalls in there and why I couldn't find
the stand up urinals...I wasn't going to go hunting though since putting
your hand in one of those by accident isn't particularly enjoyable.

Anyway, the whole stupid arguement about weather men should take their
daughters into men's rooms, or women take their son's into women's rooms is
so petty and rediculous to me.
We argue and get uptight about that, and at the same time, the teen
pregnancy rate in the United States is at an all time high.
There is something wrong with this picture.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Blind people and rest rooms


>I had to use an outhouse many times in my life. I mean the kind with the 
>wooden seats the necessary bugs and spider webs, etc.
> I also have stopped along the way and found a spot in the bushes.
> My grandmother and I even reiorted to a Coffee Can when necessary.
> I do have to say I like those restrooms which are designed as one small 
> room with everything in it for anyone.
> This works well too especially if you are a parent and have a child of a 
> different gender and do not want them to go into a bathroom unattended.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Howard Kaufman <[log in to unmask]>
> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
> Date: Friday, May 31, 2013 3:33 pm
> Subject: Re: Blind people and rest rooms
>
>>
>>
>> And being prevents you from using a trough?  Guess you've never been to
>> Rigley Field.