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excellent, let me know what you think.
Be sure to run the pre out's of your amp into the line level inputs of the 
speakers.
They'll either have a separate line in jack, or a combo jack with a switch 
to set either line in, or microphone in.
You may find the EQ and other filter settings are good, or you may find that 
you can just use the eq on your sony preamp to adjust the tonality of the 
source music.
Don't forget, the low cut, high cut, and eq on most powered PA cabinets are 
designed for live audio applications.  So the low cut usually chops 
everything below 100HZ, and if there is a high cut, it'll chop everything 
above about 6K...the eq will also be usable in a fairly narrow range with 
pretty wide shelves...IE the bass control will adjust from 60HZ to 2K and 
the high will adjust from 2K to 10K.
You might have gotten lucky and found a manufacturer that actually puts 
shelving adjustments on the eq, or one that provides a 3 or 4 band eq 
instead of a two band EQ like most of them do.
You got a good deal on those.  Hopefully they meet your needs.
Have fun.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Qsc k-10 speakers?


> Hi Colin, thanks for the info on the powered systems.  I haven't taken on
> out of the box though after reading your email, I am going to hook them 
> up.
> When I listened to one at the store the other night the surrounding noise
> level was low and I don't recall hearing much if any hiss from the amp. 
> You
> have my curiosity peaked now.  I had planned to just leave them boxed 
> until
> moving them to the new place.  Far as price, everyone seems to be seeling
> them at around $749 but I got them from the Guitar Center for $693 each 
> with
> my wife and I each using an online coupon to get 15 percent off the 
> original
> price.  Hopefully they have addressed your noise concerns.  I plan to run
> them off the preamp out's of my old Sony amp.  73, Jim
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Colin McDonald
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 10:25 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT, Qsc k-10 speakers?
>
> I haven't used these particular QSC speakers.
> I have used qsc power amps before and they always sounded pretty good for
> live environments.
> These k10's or k12's sound like they are good for small to medium PA
> applications.
> One thing you have to be aware of though is that signal to noise ratio in
> powered PA speakers will be significant compared with your average home
> stereo equipment.
> A 1KW amplifier is rather liberal of them since the only way you can get 
> 1kw
> of program power out of them is with a pile of drive and a huge amount of
> distortion...
> They'll probably sing along at a few hundred watts without too much 
> trouble
> though.
> However, the noise will be pretty obvious in a typical home listening
> environment.
> In order to get output like that, the amplifiers have to be class D 
> digital
> amps, and though they sound very clean up to a certain point, that clean
> audio comes with a price on it.
> The noise is usually a hiss that can be heard even when the speaker is
> sitting idol.
> You don't hear that in live venues due to other ambient noise.
> So, if your intension is to use them for home listening, you may be
> disappointed.
> However, if your intension is to use them for live work, then they'll
> probably fit the bill nicely.  They sound like they are fairly small and
> pack a punch.
> I've used a number of different powered cabinets such as the yorkville
> 200P's, 550P's and 750P's.  These range from a 15 inch driver and 1 inch
> tweeter on the 200P's with a 200W amplifier, to the 750p's which have a 15
> inch driver and 2 inch tweeter and 750W of output.
> I've also used samson powered speakers which are garbage in my opinion.
> Also, I've used some JBL's in the past which sound pretty nice, though not
> quite as nice as the yorkville gear.
> I wasn't actually aware that QSC had gotten into the powered cabinet 
> market.
> They may be one of the first to address the signal to noise ratio in their
> class D amplifiers, and if so, all this talk of noise may be a moot 
> subject.
> I'll do some more reading on them and see what I can come up with.
> What is the price point like on these?  That, like with most music related
> gear, is usually a fairly good indicator of quality and usability.
> A typical decent 1kw powered cab should cost somewhere in the range of 
> $1000
> to $2000.  That large range being due to features and actual program power
> etc.
> The program power rating is what the speaker will actually produce given
> typical line level drive.  More like an RMS rating.
>
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:35 AM
> Subject: OT, Qsc k-10 speakers?
>
>
>> Hey Colin, off topic, but have you ever heard or heard of QSC
>> k-10 or k-12 speakers? They are PA speakers but can also be used
>> to play music.  They are I guess large book shelf speakers, but
>> have handles on one side and the top.  They have a hold in the
>> bottem that can accommodate those tripod stands that go from
>> about 4 feet to probably 7 or 8 feet high.  Each speaker has a
>> 1000 watt power amp in it and has several types of input on the
>> back as well as some low and high frequency controls and volume.
>> Just wondering if you know about them? 73, Jim 

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