I'll definitely keep you and everyone posted, Jim.
First, though, I have to get permission to put the antenna up, and then
actually do the instalation.
I'm hoping for this week-end, but that may or may not happen, because of
other things going on.
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:12 PM
Subject: Manual tuners
> Hey Tom, let me know your findings about that. I am also using a
> 480 but don't yet have a manual tuner. I have used the rig on 60
> meters with a terrible SWR but just cranked the power down and it
> worked alright considering everything. Jim WA6EKS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:04:07 -0400
> Subject: Re: Tuning aids, noise bridges, etc.
>
> Bob:
>
> Well, whenever I tune for low SWR with the 480, I turn the
> auto-tuner off.
>
> I assume that, when it is off, it is in completely bypass mode.
>
> And, yes, I agree; I'll prefer a manual tuner over an auto-tuner
> any day,
> in terms of power loss considerations. I actually have a little
> MFJ 901B
> manual tuner that I should take out to the RV just to see if it
> is more
> efficient and less lossy than the TS480's internal tuner.
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob, K8LR" <[log in to unmask]
> To: <[log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Tuning aids, noise bridges, etc.
>
>
> Tom,
>
> since you have an internal tuner in your TS480, it will either
> tune the
> antenna or you'll get a SWR cw error message. Just remember
> that an
> internal tuner is not very efficient, it usually sucks out
> between 10%
> and15% of the output power. As Buddy mentioned, its not a good
> idea to
> hook
> up a watt or SWR meter after an internal tuner as your readings
> will be
> way
> off.
>
> Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]
> To: <[log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Tuning aids, noise bridges, etc.
>
>
> Tom,
>
> You do realize that the TW1 won't actually tell you anything
> about what =
> your internal tuner is doing, right?
>
> I mean, the meter goes before the tuner, which is impossible if
> the =
> tuner is internal. So, yeah, you'll get your power out racing,
> but you =
> won't get an active WR reading, at least not as far as your rig
> is =
> concerned. It's going to see whatever the internal tuner
> matches to, but =
> the TW1 won't, since it's necessarily in line after the tuner,
> not =
> before.=20
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, all.
> =20
> I have debated about posting this right now, especially in light
> of =
> all of=20
> the traffic regarding Trippy's ccurrent saga, since the question
> I'm =
> going=20
> to ask may involve posting some repetitive info that already is
> =
> included in=20
> the discussion threads. However, I'm hoping that any responses
> will =
> pull=20
> together some knowledge that will help both me and others. If =
> responding to=20
> this quiry does involve too much repetition, please feel free to
> reply =
> off=20
> list.
> =20
> As many of you know, I'm struggling with my HF antenna situation
> out =
> at the=20
> RV. In fact, the ham radio withdrawals are getting worse with
> each =
> passing=20
> week, and I may have to take Howard's Zannex advice soon (grin).
> =20
> I'm actually now very close to trying to put up my extra
> 102-foot G5RV =
> out=20
> at the camp site, at least temporarily, just to see how it does.
> I'll =
> have=20
> to get clearance from camp ground management, but I hope the
> fact that =
> we=20
> have a seasonal pass will help.
> =20
> When I do any antenna work out at the RV, I always take the 1
> and only =
> TW1=20
> that I have, so as to be sure to tune for lowest SWR. It
> involves =
> tearing=20
> my home station apart a bit, but is well worth the sacrifice,
> since I =
> don't=20
> want to become victim to what Trippy apparently just
> experienced. I =
> realize=20
> that the auto-tuner in my TS480SAT should keep me out of
> trouble, =
> but I=20
> just want to be doubly sure.
> =20
> Anyway, I am in the market for some sort of a tuning aid to use
> out at =
> the=20
> RV. I'd love to get my hands on a used TW1, and will keep a
> lookout =
> for 1.
> =20
> In the event I can't find one, mention of noise bridges has been
> made =
> here=20
> on a number of ocasions. Which noise bridge have you guys found
> to =
> work the=20
> best, and can you give me price and other info?
> =20
> I could also call Handihams to see if they have any of their old
> =
> tuning aids=20
> left, but I believe those are no longer available on a
> consistent =
> basis.
> =20
> Thanks as always and 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
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